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14 Aug 2014 11:03 a.m. PST
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War Panda14 Aug 2014 10:38 a.m. PST

Okay I'm on a thread reading through the same old same old mundane boring fighting arguing and backstabbing to the face when suddenly a remarkable thing is revealed:

Shiver me timbers but "Winston Smith" is the "OFM"…Bleeped text me I never saw that coming!

It was like all time stood still for a moment and the music from "The Crying Game" was playing in the back ground…

So who else is who else?

Am I the only one who is only one?

Am I only one?

How do I really know who I am really talking to?

How do you know who I am really talking to?

How do I know that I am not talking to myself?

How do you know that I am not really you?

I am confused! Or is it? Is that you that's confused? Hmmm…

sock I don't know who you are

sock sock are not your friends

sock socksock sock are scary

Griefbringer14 Aug 2014 10:49 a.m. PST

I am Spartacus!

RWANDA PA14 Aug 2014 11:12 a.m. PST

I agree with beautiful panda. It is time to stop the sock

Gokiburi14 Aug 2014 11:16 a.m. PST

We are all who we say we are number 6; I am number 2, you are number 6.
Why do you persist in questioning this?

P.S. Some information would be nice.

Maddaz11114 Aug 2014 11:25 a.m. PST

I would like an account for the business, and one for personal hobby. I don't do that because, it is unfair, for me to have two votes.

I don't have a problem with sock puppetry, if it doesn't abuse or harm others.

Griefbringer14 Aug 2014 11:29 a.m. PST

We are all who we say we are number 6; I am number 2, you are number 6.

Who is number 1?

Cyrus the Great14 Aug 2014 11:42 a.m. PST

I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together.

Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut14 Aug 2014 11:59 a.m. PST

Honestly, John has always been upfront about both of his accounts and why he has two of them. No sneakiness or sock puppetry going on with him. Just like whenever I talk about Dark Age Games or Workdworks Ganes, I always put in a disclaimer about my association with them (previous game developer for Dark Age, current playtester and forum moderator for Worldworks.)

John the OFM14 Aug 2014 12:18 p.m. PST

On past work computers I have been Cat Shannon, William Pitt the Eldar, Frodo Corleone and a few others.
Now on my cell phone I am Winston Smith.

I only vote once in polls. grin
Unless it is a silly poll.

From the FAQ:
TMP link

What is "Sock Puppeting"?
Sock puppeting is the use of one or more anonymous accounts in a manner designed to deceive others. For instance:
Posting a message on the forums, then using other member accounts to "agree" with yourself so that you seem to be winning the argument;
Posting messages from multiple accounts to give the impression that a "crowd" is interested in your favorite period/rules/subject;
Sock puppeting is not allowed at TMP.

Somewhat contradictory:
So, is it a bad idea to have multiple TMP accounts?
No, not at all.

I submit that I do not fit the strict TMP definition of "sock puppeting" because my intent is not to deceive. And I am not "agreeing with myself", I am merely continuing the conversation, albeit wearing Grouch glasses.
I do not change my style, or my views.
Also if you click on Winston Smith's identity, it says under Real Name "John the OFM". I/we often use the "Royal We" in our posts.

If this is a problem with Dear Editor in Chief, he can tell me to cease and desist, and then I will have to figure out how to post from my work cell.

John the OFM14 Aug 2014 12:23 p.m. PST

"We" have been outed on Frothers. They know who "we" are. grin

War Panda14 Aug 2014 12:35 p.m. PST

On a serious note I should say on the thread in question the OFM was the one who "revealed himself to everyone" ..ahem I mean…he well anyway you know what I mean…

I was so used to reading Winston and never suspecting that it was the OFM…

Anyway this situation has thought me a valuable lesson about the evils of sock puppetry… I will be on the look out for any double agent, doople-ganger, two faced alter egos that may be circulating this fine place

Doug MSC Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2014 12:44 p.m. PST

John, we like you and Winston too!

Aubrey14 Aug 2014 12:47 p.m. PST

Gokiburi and Griefbringer,
We went to Portmeirion in North Wales last week as part of our holiday.
I am now the proud owner of a badge that proclaims "I am not a number" so I certainly am not 1,2 or 6 or any other number you may care to name.
I am simply Aubrey and nobody else. Whether that matters to anyone else I care not.
Regards
Aubrey

War Panda14 Aug 2014 12:48 p.m. PST

No Doug I'm sorry but I don't agree at all. I would trust Winston Smith with my LIFE but how can I ever trust the OFM again?

No I'm sorry but he's just not to be trusted…

War Panda14 Aug 2014 12:50 p.m. PST

Also I'm a little suspicious about that Rwanda Pa…he called me beautiful (which I am) but how could he know that?

Hmmm…

War Panda14 Aug 2014 12:51 p.m. PST

10 4 Aubrey…that was very touching …you'll always be no. 1 in my book

GurKhan14 Aug 2014 1:00 p.m. PST

How do I know who it is even if it is really you?

RavenscraftCybernetics14 Aug 2014 1:18 p.m. PST

We have never argued so I'll give you a rule to live by in case we do…
You'll know it's me because my logical argument will make you feel totally insignificant.
If you feel that you've "won" the argument then obviously someone has "hacked" my account.
ymmv,
RC

wrgmr114 Aug 2014 1:20 p.m. PST

I am not a number… I am a free man!

RavenscraftCybernetics14 Aug 2014 1:21 p.m. PST

Never trust the OFM as long as he is in the clutches of COMCAST. He'll only try to get you to change your interbet provider.
The same may be true for dear Winston, only time will tell.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Aug 2014 1:21 p.m. PST


Did not the statement, "You do not exist", contain a logical absurdity? But what use was it to say so? His mind shriveled as he thought of the unanswerable, mad arguments with which O'Brien would demolish him.

"I think I exist," he said wearily. "I am conscious of my own identity. I was born and I shall die. I have arms and legs. I occupy a particular point in space. No other solid object can occupy the same point simultaneously. In that sense, does Big Brother exist?" (3.2.40-41, Winston)

Winston continues to hold on to the concept of an independent, external reality by referring to his being conscious of his own existence.

- George Orwell, 1984

I do this on my own occasionally, however, in this specific case, I believe it is fitting to quote the master.

B6GOBOS14 Aug 2014 1:32 p.m. PST

Number 6: Where am I?

Number 2: In the Village.

Number 6: What do you want?

Number 2: We want information.

Number 6: Whose side are you on?

Number 2: That would be telling. We want information… information… information.

Number 6: You won't get it.

Number 2: By hook or by crook, we will.

Number 6: Who are you?

Number 2: The new Number 2.

Number 6: Who is Number 1?

Number 2: You are Number 6.

Number 6: I am not a number, I am a free man.

Winston Smith14 Aug 2014 1:33 p.m. PST

I feel like I am on existential struggle for my own existence.

Perhaps TMP needs a Board for existential angst.

dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2014 2:00 p.m. PST

Perhaps TMP needs a Board for existential angst.

PERHAPS?! ahem… why yes Winston I do believe you are correct

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Aug 2014 2:05 p.m. PST

Perhaps TMP needs a Board for existential angst.

Try the Pulp Gaming board …

nazrat14 Aug 2014 2:21 p.m. PST

I am the One, the Only, the TRUE Nazrat. Accept no substitutes (as there are none). 8)=

Gloria Smud14 Aug 2014 2:35 p.m. PST

Trust me …. I'm a Doctor!

RWANDA PA14 Aug 2014 2:38 p.m. PST

I'm a little suspicious about that Rwanda Pa…he called me beautiful

pandas are beautiful

ZULUPAUL Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2014 2:44 p.m. PST

I'm who I say I am… ZULUPAUL, no other accounts

zippyfusenet14 Aug 2014 2:54 p.m. PST

I am the Lizard King.
I can do anything.

skippy000114 Aug 2014 3:08 p.m. PST

I can be in two places at once even when I'm nowhere at all.

It's a chronosynclasticindifibulum kinda thing.

So how would The Man With no Name do what John The OFM did?

Winston Smith14 Aug 2014 3:09 p.m. PST

There are those who call me….Tim?

Ed Mohrmann Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2014 4:11 p.m. PST

A nothing, a nobody – not even a mere bagatelle…

Nor a zero, since the line of same surrounds substance –
or does it ?

OP, see what you've begun ? Meddling Panda…

Smokey Roan14 Aug 2014 5:21 p.m. PST

I am thinking of a second acoount. Just to avoid any associations with Smokey.


Do you think another name with a U avatar will be obvious?

Raynman Supporting Member of TMP14 Aug 2014 5:36 p.m. PST

I'm me. Nobody else, just me.

StarfuryXL514 Aug 2014 6:15 p.m. PST

I am the walrus.

Goo goo g'joob.

gamedad2514 Aug 2014 8:28 p.m. PST

I agree with Winston Smith and John the OFM.

And so do I.

gamedad2514 Aug 2014 8:30 p.m. PST

When you're a schizophrenic, you're never really alone.

John the OFM14 Aug 2014 9:17 p.m. PST

Do you think another name with a U avatar will be obvious?

Prbably. Try a Notre Dame one, and no one will suspect!

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP15 Aug 2014 6:38 a.m. PST

There is only one 20thmaine.
(Thank goodness)

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP15 Aug 2014 7:43 a.m. PST

Do you think another name with a U avatar will be obvious?

No. Everybody is a Canes fan.

MarescialloDiCampo15 Aug 2014 7:45 a.m. PST

I am myself and only me…

Sergeant Paper15 Aug 2014 8:27 a.m. PST

You probably ought to use a Free Shoes logo, Smoke…

kevanG15 Aug 2014 9:11 a.m. PST

john's okay, but that winston guy is always moaning about work…..

Smokey Roan15 Aug 2014 9:29 a.m. PST

I remember a Star Wars game in OFM's basement.

Smokey: "Where is everybody else?"

OFM "We got three people, that should do"

Smokey: "Uh, THREE, it's just me and you and the Princess Leia Slave costume?"

THAT is when I met "Winston" for the first time. :O

Robert Kennedy15 Aug 2014 10:01 a.m. PST

I'm schizophrenic and so am I.

138SquadronRAF15 Aug 2014 7:36 p.m. PST

Number 6: Who is Number 1?

Number 2: You are Number 6.

Add a comma after 'are' and the mystery is solved. :-)

tkdguy15 Aug 2014 10:46 p.m. PST

I am he as you are he as you are me
And we are all together.

Coo coo cuchoo!

vtsaogames16 Aug 2014 9:15 a.m. PST

Winston Smith, come with me. Happiness, Peace and Freedom lie this way. Don't try to escape.

vtsaogames16 Aug 2014 9:16 a.m. PST

The evidence is clear that you've been dreaming.

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