"New Board: Ultramodern" Topic

Forum rules allow for discussion of contemporary military operations, as long as the discussions remain focused on military aspects, and do not stray into politics.

Sometimes those posts have gone on the Modern Discussion board, and sometimes the Modern Media board (due to being newpaper reports).

However, a number of people are interested in post-WWII ("Modern") gaming, without having an interest in contemporary actions, often seeing them as being "too soon" to be depicted on the wargames table.

As an attempt at compromise, the Ultramodern board has been launched. This will be the board for discussion military actions of the current time, and as far back as ten years.

Those who are interested in Moderns but not contemporary actions will now be able to unsubscribe to this specific board, and be able to avoid such discussions.

The editors will be active at relocating new discussions into the appropriate Ultramodern board until members learn of the change.

Not allowed

Sounds reasonable. Modern: 1946-2005 and after (since the last 10 years would change as time goes on). Ultramodern: 2005+ through the current year.

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the Ultramodern board has been launched

Not going there.

Canes football board, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not going there, either.

We have a Cold War board covering up to 1989.

I'm confused; if Ultramoderns covers now to 2004, is the Modern board expected to cover only 1990-2003?

Good. I game 28mm Modern Afghanistan using Ambush Alley. I like Ultra Moderns. I'll post here for game ideas, scenarios. I also have an interest in 28mm Vietnam. But that's for the Cold War forum.

Thanks, Bill.
Blake

I think it only covers March 2nd through to June 5th.

Make it a floating date. It always covers the week after the present date. If the topic goes on for more than 7 days, it's not "history" and no longer allowed. ;)

At least this solves the problem of the CNN news feed posts.

Would near-future scenarios be included in the Ultramodern board?

Confused-this is for Ghost Recon-style mini's/campaigns?

So WW2 to 1945, Cold War 1945-1989, Modern 1990-2004, Ultra-modern 2004-2014…

Presumably the end of modern and the start of Ultra-modern will move each year as ultra-modern will cover the preceeding 10 years up to whichever year we are in (so in 5 years time it will be modern =1990-2009, ultra-modern 2009-2019).

Things like Korea, Vietnam, Arab-Israeli wars, Soviets in Afghanistan, Falklands, Grenada then all fall into Cold War (where they are now).

Likely conflicts for the new modern board would be… the Gulf War/Kuwait, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Chechnya, Darfur, Israel…

Leaving ultra modern board discussing… umm, Iraq (ongoing), Afghanistan (ongoing), Darfur (ongoing), Israel (ongoing), Somalia (ongoing), Bush Wars, Chadian Civil war…

I'm confused; if Ultramoderns covers now to 2004, is the Modern board expected to cover only 1990-2003?

Not every military engagement between '46 and '90 was part of the Cold War. And not every violent conflict amenable to miniature wargaming of that period was a military engagement.

the Ultramodern board has been launched

In the spirit of TMP Talk, since the paint is (paritally) dry on this, allow me to complain about the name. For me, ultramodern evokes images of near-future potential conflicts with the option of "what-if" situations and mild improvements on current technology. I like the "contemporary" word the Lord High Editor used better.

That said, I only support a poll for summary deletion of posts calling for a poll on changing the name of the Ultramodern board.

As long as they happen within the next ten years of this post.

Not every military engagement between '46 and '90 was part of the Cold War

I think the title is more one of convenience than specifically related to east-west face-offs.

Canes football? Bored.

I would like to thank the EIC for this.

There are quite a few posts which quote and link to opinion pieces as if they are news, with little or no commentary or analysis by the OP, let alone a discussion of the bias of the source, usually followed by the same few posters beating the same old drums.

As I come to TMP for the technical hobby information, I have yet to engage in these discussions, and will attempt to continue to refrain from doing so.

And yes, I know I can filter them, and customize my TMP experience.

Cheers.

And yes, I know I can filter them, and customize my TMP experience.

Actually, its kind of hard to automatically filer OT posts without cutting out tons of stuff that might be relevant.

Computers don't think and can only explicitly follow the rules they are given. Cutting out posts based on who posted them or where they are in the site is easy. Cutting out posts by distinguishing the difference between discussion of what is happening and could happen vice what should happen is difficult, at best.

You're pretty much stuck reading the post until it goes astray.

Man this one is gonna be nearly impossible to stay within the rules because once you mention what countries army your building and who there going to fight your already nearly breaking the politics rule.

I think fighting is in breach of the new health and safety policy

To be fair, the moderns board was becoming "current affairs politics" and "post how much you want to bomb ISIS" in any event.

This move just separates things out a bit and allows some gaming and modelling related questions to actually flourish.

Canes football should be posted on the Cold War board. That was the last time they were relevant to CFB.

UltraModern? That's sooooooo 30 seconds ago. Out of date, sorry. Got anything newer?

I just asked Bill to move at least one of the current Ukraine threads to the new board

There's no excuse, unless he made some modern Danes in 15mm ;)

….hmm, find me some data on Danes then

'Canes football? Bored.'
They aren't talking about proper football (or Rugby)

I'm mostly joking, they could probably be covered just fine with existing figures out there.

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Not sure if we still use the MG3's for squad support though or if they switched from that.

Some Home Guard figures with G3's would be keen, but I doubt they'd be a big seller.

Apparently, they've ditched the G3 too. Cold War territory, they'd have used them though.

We do have Germans with G3, and G36 (both with MG3), although Wiki seems to think they use the C7?

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They do use C7 now. The G3 was in use during the cold war era.

After the switch, "home guard" (home defence forces essentially) kept the G3 for a while longer.

In 98 or so, when I did my mandatory service, conscripts and home guard still had G3 but the professional army (the 7 guys we mail out to peace keeping operations) had switched.

From looking at your site, it looks like your post war Germans could work fine for the great Danish reconquest of England :)

So when I finish the Cold War Canadians (with SLR) perhaps I should do a modern Canadian/Danish range…

I'll buy a few packs of anything Scandinavian you do :)

I imagine Norwegians in winter kit would be popular too.

Armies Army is going to do Cold War Scandinavians, although I may consider some modern figures when I do the CV-90

Looking at that photo, a thought springs to mind…

(Despite being left handed) I have always made the figures right handed. I generally do 3 poses so you get a random mix of 3/3/2 in a pack of 8.

3 in 8 left handers seems a bit disproportionate (even for patrolling) but would a generic pack of 8 left handers with M16s be of interest?

Anything that adds more variety in poses is a good thing in my book.

Oh dear. This new board is obviously either a DH trap or a subtle way to create a Tango board without naming it after him. Unchecked it is.

Oh dear. This new board is obviously either a DH trap or a subtle way to create a Tango board without naming it after him. Unchecked it is.

It's no more a DH trap than when the topics were scattered on other boards. People need to be aware of forum rules.

As for Tango, he is a fantastic sharer of information, and this board will be richer for it.

Cold War, Modern and the Ultra-Modern boards should have their respective timespans listed in the titles of the boards. Otherwise they are nebulous jargon Boards WIthout Borders.

How do you list a moving timespan? (Ultramodern)

Cold War: NATO versus Warsaw Pact, 1947-1989

Moderns: 1947-1991

Ultramoderns: 1991 to present day

That's why we refer to our range as postwar, not Cold War

'As for Tango, he is a fantastic sharer of information, and this board will be richer for it.'

yup, so far his posts on the modern board have saved me checking the news each day ;-)

Thanks for the tip ABHS. I see the Editor is getting in on the act as well.
All I need now are Weather Reports, TV and Film Guides, my favoured Sports and Music and its a one stop shop – I AM NOT BEING SERIOUS lol

All I need now are Weather Reports, TV and Film Guides, my favoured Sports and Music

Try the Plus boards …

Well chaps, the wallahs on the Ultramodern Board seem to be the new inhabitants of chokey.

Crimes – seems to be discussing modern politics.

Who could have guessed that would happen?

*raises hand*

Well it seems it was bound to happen. With in many cases the topics devolve into personal attacks, heated derisive vitriolic comments that have no relevance to the topic, my uncle is going to beat you up, your mother dresses you funny, etc., etc. …

And as I noted previously … I have learned the differences between many Euros and Yanks is much more diverse than I first believed. Hence on the UM Board it became more and more clear.

As for Tango, he is a fantastic sharer of information, and this board will be richer for it.

Agree totally … don't shoot the messenger …

I'll buy a few packs of anything Scandinavian you do :)

Including the Swedish Bikini Team ! They are Scandinavians !

Canes football board, NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!