BW1959 | 08 Aug 2014 2:28 p.m. PST |
link All for safety? Hard to believe anyone could miss the monument. I say leave it be and put in a four way stop. |
Grizzly71 | 08 Aug 2014 2:52 p.m. PST |
If it's been there since 1895, you'd think they wouldn't have run the roads right into it. |
DyeHard | 08 Aug 2014 3:03 p.m. PST |
Looks like a good place for a roundabout! |
Jamesonsafari | 08 Aug 2014 3:55 p.m. PST |
Wow, somebody failed Road Planning class didn't they? Yeah, put a flower bed around it, and install some lights, 4 way stops signs or a roundabout and call it a day. Cheaper than moving it! Although I've been told that American drivers find 4-way stops and roundabouts rather challenging. |
Murphy | 08 Aug 2014 3:58 p.m. PST |
North Carolina had one of their monuments hit and destroyed by a stupid driver about two years ago. They have been trying to get it fixed and replaced but the city doesn't want to put it back where it was. It's interesting to see that they said there were 28 accidents there at that intersection. How many of them involved the monument? Based on the lack of damage I saw to it…not many….I'd say the majority of the accidents was probably drivers "too busy/important" to stop at the intersection…. |
Cerdic | 08 Aug 2014 4:07 p.m. PST |
Needs a roundabout. Dead simple! |
Old Pete | 08 Aug 2014 4:10 p.m. PST |
Roundabout is good option. |
ACW Gamer | 08 Aug 2014 4:16 p.m. PST |
@James…..yes, many Americans lose their friggin' minds when they get into roundabouts. THEN when you change sides of the road in the UK, it becomes a quantum physics equation. European vacation was not far off "look kids, Parliament,Big Ben!…….look kids, Parliament,Big Ben!…..look kids, Parliament,Big Ben!' |
Charlie 12 | 08 Aug 2014 4:43 p.m. PST |
Might be better to move it to an ACCESSIBLE place. Where people can appreciate it at leisure (instead of at 50mph). I know, what a novel idea… |
Parzival | 08 Aug 2014 4:48 p.m. PST |
Not a huge fan of roundabouts, but we've got one in the town square of my fair city, and yes, it's around a Civil War monument. Aside from the expense, I really don't see the fuss with moving it out of the street, maybe into a park. The monument doesn't need to change, just be moved. But if the folks of the town want it to stay in place, then the roundabout or four-way stop makes sense. As it is right now, the flashing lights and black warning stripes look like an eyesore to me. A little grassy circle with flowers, etc., seems just the thing. |
morrigan | 08 Aug 2014 7:41 p.m. PST |
2 more stop signs would be cheap. |
Chris Wimbrow | 08 Aug 2014 11:31 p.m. PST |
If it's been there since 1895, you'd think they wouldn't have run the roads right into it. Wow, somebody failed Road Planning class didn't they? I think the roads were there first, and most (if not all) horsepower in town then was fueled by oats. |
Chris Wimbrow | 08 Aug 2014 11:32 p.m. PST |
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Trajanus | 09 Aug 2014 3:34 a.m. PST |
Well judging by the news item, it doesn't do much for driver line of sight, so I can see the traffic issue. Maybe the roundabout would be better as it could give more chance of stationary and moving vehicles seeing each other. |
Cerdic | 09 Aug 2014 6:19 a.m. PST |
We have loads of roundabouts with stuff in the middle. It is a good solution. All the driver needs to do is look to his right, or left in your case, if there is nothing coming he goes. |
138SquadronRAF | 09 Aug 2014 8:20 a.m. PST |
Trouble is the Merkins don't grock the roundabouts. |
donlowry | 09 Aug 2014 10:03 a.m. PST |
Couldn't see the story for some stupid commercial, but I suggest they keep the monument and move the town. |
Trajanus | 09 Aug 2014 1:09 p.m. PST |
Hey! Lateral thinking – I like it! |
BW1959 | 09 Aug 2014 2:34 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the photo Chris. |
GGouveia | 09 Aug 2014 6:49 p.m. PST |
Round abound or traffic circle as we call them in Alberta. Easiest solution, would keep everyone happy hopefully. It would be a shame to have to move it. |
Ivan DBA | 10 Aug 2014 10:50 p.m. PST |
We have a few roundabouts here in Austin. I've never observed any "Merkins" having trouble with them (be it grocking, or just driving through them). Sorry if that doesn't match up with your expectations. |
OSchmidt | 11 Aug 2014 4:33 a.m. PST |
We have a virtual twin of the same statue in Newton NJ (They produced these by the trainload for towns wanting to put one up. Ours however stands in a one block sized city park in the center of town. Seems to me the best thing is to buy that vacant lot to the left and rear o the Statue and relocate it to there. I suspect though that the real reason is someone has worked themselves into a huff of "offence" and they want to relocate it to the city dump. |
Rebelyell2006 | 11 Aug 2014 7:34 a.m. PST |
If it's been there since 1895, you'd think they wouldn't have run the roads right into it. Yeah, but you would also think that people wouldn't build their houses next to an airport, or build a school next to a fertilizer factory. People don't plan ahead. |
capncarp | 12 Aug 2014 6:16 a.m. PST |
Chris, you're brilliant! You've given us the answer in your first photo--a hand-in-hand barricade of children in turn of the century clothing! Why, nothing would dare to run over those cute little darlings! Actually, a quatrefoil of guard rails could gently guide the traffic and protect the monument. Gettysburg's "square" is actually a circle and it works ok if people are courteous and traffic is low to moderate and everyone keeps moving slowly: in high volume it's best to know which back streets to use to get there from here. Roundabouts and traffic circles are for civilized genteel populaces. Which is why New Joisey has removed most of their demolition derby intersections, in self defense. And Rebelyell--sometimes zoning changes and the factory or the pig farm or the army depot moves in next to you, not vice versa. |
Legion 4 | 12 Aug 2014 6:44 a.m. PST |
Who is getting paid to move it or who is getting paid to make a new road or roundabout ? Follow the $$$ … |
Old Pete | 12 Aug 2014 8:04 a.m. PST |
Roundabout in Gettysburg is very busy and works well. When I went to Richmond Virginia monuments to Gens. Lee, Jackson, Stuart were all in the middle of roundabouts and did not seem a big problem. |
Trajanus | 12 Aug 2014 9:07 a.m. PST |
I would imagine any tampering with those three would earn a lynching! |