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Tango0131 Jul 2014 10:54 p.m. PST

"The British concocted a scheme of making a gigantic aircraft carrier out of ice reinforced with sawdust. It was to be virtually unsinkable and large enough to carry multi-engine bombers. This concept was not an idle idea, but a genuine program worked on quite seriously."

YouTube link

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VonTed01 Aug 2014 3:13 a.m. PST

One of my favorites :)

Cuchulainn01 Aug 2014 5:09 a.m. PST

There's something slippery about the whole idea…

OSchmidt01 Aug 2014 6:00 a.m. PST

I love military charlatanism.

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2014 6:23 a.m. PST

And that's only the tip of the iceberg….I'll get my coat…

plutarch 6401 Aug 2014 7:02 a.m. PST

I remember hearing about this on several occasions and feel a bit sorry for Churchill in all of this (from en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pykrete):

"Mountbatten's reaction to the breakthrough is recorded by Pyke's biographer David Lampe:

What happened next was explained several years after the war by Lord Mountbatten in a widely-quoted after-dinner speech. "I was sent to Chequers to see the Prime Minister and was told he was in his bath.

I said, 'Good, that's exactly where I want him to be.' I nipped up the stairs and called out to him, 'I have a block of a new material which I would like to put in your bath.'

After that he suggested that I should take it to the Quebec Conference." The demonstration in Churchill's steaming bath had been most dramatic. After the outer film of ice on the small pykrete cube had melted, the freshly exposed wood pulp kept the remainder of the block from thawing."

I personally wouldn't have taken kindly to Mountbatten barging in whilst I was having a hot bath and a cigar, and chucking a big lump of ice on my old-feller. It did apparently give Churchill food for thought however, which now appears to have been taken up in a new range of police launches here in Brisbane, all these years later:

picture

John the OFM01 Aug 2014 7:17 a.m. PST

Mountbatten and Churchill…
Now THAT is an unholy pair.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP01 Aug 2014 7:58 a.m. PST

I have a micro scale one in my freezer.

DsGilbert01 Aug 2014 9:55 a.m. PST

This was covered on Mythbusters.

Tango0101 Aug 2014 10:15 a.m. PST

LOL! (smile).

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Cuchulainn01 Aug 2014 10:49 a.m. PST

@ DsGilbert: So was the myth busted or not?

DsGilbert01 Aug 2014 11:55 a.m. PST

The myth started with the legend of the ice carrier and ended up with this: YouTube link

hindsTMP Supporting Member of TMP02 Aug 2014 6:11 p.m. PST

This is also covered in Chapter 18 of the new "British Aircraft Carriers" book by David Hobbs.

MH

138SquadronRAF06 Aug 2014 8:44 a.m. PST

There is a few days left to listen, but the BBC has a Radio play about Pyke and HMS Habakkuk:

link

Personal logo foxbat Supporting Member of TMP12 Aug 2014 4:31 a.m. PST

Mountbatten and Churchill…
Now THAT is an unholy pair.

Not so much, I think. Mountbatten was the son of Prince Louis of Battenberg, who was the First Sea Lord (before Fisher's return) at the start of WW1 while Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty. I guess they had been knowing each other fairly well, sort of avuncular relationship. The Battenbergs/Mountbattens certainly were a very qualified branch of the Windsors.

Servo300021 Aug 2014 12:15 p.m. PST

I recall seeing the lake in the Canadian Rockies where it was supposedly tested. (Lake Patricia I think??) Supposedly some sort of docking relic from it still there.

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