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Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2014 8:16 a.m. PST

It's quite a long time ago – and to be honest I'm not 100% sure that I can accurately recall my first proper wargame rules purchases. I'm putting aside for now things like the rules in Donald Featherstone's books. What I'm talking about is a standalone publication of wargame rules – like WRG Ancients, or DBA, or Warhammer.

I'm pretty sure that my first few purchases were :

1. Sim-War WWII – this was a fun game using a series of colour maps marked out in different sized rectangles to reflect movement speeds across different terrain. Rule sets for differnt periods were available – I think Ancients, WWII and maybe horse & musket. Scale was 6mm – so this was bought to have something to use my Skytrex tanks with.

2. Skytrex Galactic Warfare rules – spaceship combat using lots of percentiles. It felt very scientific, and involved such niceties as refuelling during a long battle! As I recall it was slow…but it felt like a Hard SF novel !

3. Skytrex – SELWG Middle Earth rules. A strange set, a WRG anients like battle system, with an attempt to bolt heroes on top of it which didn't always come off all that well. In the end I dropped most of the hero part from the battle rules (apart from morale effects), but used the hero combat rules bit as a mini-skirmish set which actually worked quite well in my recollection.

4. Here's where we start to get a bit hazy, but I think it was Paragon's New Gladiator Rules – using Minifigs gladiators. This purchase was swung by seeing Dave Rotor's "colesseum in a biscuit tin" portable gladiator setup in the window of Minifgs-Skytrex. However, it may have been FGU's Dungeon exploring ruleset "Citadel", which came with floorplans and counters and everything you needed to get started playing – except dice !

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP31 Jul 2014 8:28 a.m. PST

It would have been back in the mid-late 60's for me and may have been some WW2 rules with logarithmic distances for ranges. Possibly by Bish Izwazko – spelling is probably miles out. Mostly I did naval with my own stuff and home brew rules so these were, I think, bought for a campaign that never got really started.

ironicon31 Jul 2014 8:34 a.m. PST

Col. Line and Square, early or mid-70's.

Personal logo Flashman14 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2014 8:36 a.m. PST

Sword and the Flame. Then Empire I think.

IGWARG1 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian31 Jul 2014 8:36 a.m. PST

Early 90's. Armati.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2014 8:36 a.m. PST

For miniatures? AD&D Battlesystem. Never used it, wish I still had it.

surdu200531 Jul 2014 8:37 a.m. PST

Rally 'Rround the Flag

Still my favorite regimental level ACW game.

John the OFM31 Jul 2014 8:38 a.m. PST

WRG 3rd(?) edition.
1776
TSATF

I am sure there were a lot of others, but those are the ones that lasted.
This of course does not include Avalon Hill or Strategy and Tactics boardgames that preceded my miniatures habit by 10 years.

Chris Palmer31 Jul 2014 8:39 a.m. PST

The old "Rally 'Round the Flag" ACW rules. followed shortly after with "Angriff" WWII rules. It would have been late 70's.

dandiggler31 Jul 2014 8:41 a.m. PST

My first historical rules were DBA 1.0. I think my first fantasy/scifi rules would have been Rogue Trader or WHFB 3rd edition.

doc mcb31 Jul 2014 8:44 a.m. PST

Morshauser, HOW TO PLAY WARGAMES IN MINIATURE, around 1960

panzerCDR31 Jul 2014 8:45 a.m. PST

Angrif by Z&M Publishing from the old Wargamer's Digest. I bought a couple of others from there based on that was about all I knew existed.

forrester31 Jul 2014 8:47 a.m. PST

Shire Publications "Discovering Wargaming" John Tunstill, early 70's.
Made my own average dice by gouging holes in the sides of a 6-sided pencil.

David Manley31 Jul 2014 8:47 a.m. PST

Operation Warboard, paperback edition. Before that I used the rules my older brother had written for our games together.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2014 8:47 a.m. PST

Don't think I've heard of Angrif – care to elaborate ?

I loved Operation Warboard – many an enjoyable and highly historically dubious (due to the available forces, not a comment on the rules!) game was played with them!

Personal logo PaulCollins Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2014 8:48 a.m. PST

One Christmas my parents bought me WRG Armoured Warfare 1950-1985 and some micro armor M1A1s because that's what my dad drove in the Marines. I first purchased The Sword And The Flame.

michaelsbagley31 Jul 2014 8:49 a.m. PST

Operation Warboard – Gavin & Bernard Lyall

Its a shame i never played the game, although i admit i was likely too young to appreciate what wargaming was all about and more entranced with RPGs at the time.

Timbo W31 Jul 2014 8:50 a.m. PST

Like DM, Operation Warboard

Patrick Sexton Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2014 8:53 a.m. PST

Chainmail 1971.

coryfromMissoula31 Jul 2014 8:58 a.m. PST

Chainmail or Knights and Magic, got both the same summer.

warwell31 Jul 2014 8:59 a.m. PST

The Complete Brigadier link

parrskool31 Jul 2014 9:02 a.m. PST

London Wargames Section ACW rules also those for Napoleonic. (Still have them)
John Tunstil Wargames
Also Dave Rotors galactic Warfare

dragon6 Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2014 9:03 a.m. PST

WRG 4th ed

Angriff en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angriff!
Wow. There is a wiki for everything…

general btsherman31 Jul 2014 9:03 a.m. PST

Brigade Fire and Fury

Don Perrin31 Jul 2014 9:05 a.m. PST

Operation Warboard by Gavin Lysle

Balin Shortstuff31 Jul 2014 9:10 a.m. PST

Chainmail, 2nd edition I think. Yellow cover. Still have it.
Tricolor. Sadly, it's lost.

legatushedlius31 Jul 2014 9:11 a.m. PST

Rules for gladiatorial combat by the Paragon Wargames Group.

Col Durnford31 Jul 2014 9:16 a.m. PST

I believe it was called "Woods edge". Out of a comic book.

Plastic battle mat showing a town surrounded by woods all marked off on a square.

Two different colored cheap American WWII troops produced by "Giant".

Vince

PatrickWR31 Jul 2014 9:16 a.m. PST

Warhammer 40k 2nd edition, got my first summer job as a 16 year old so I could afford the boxed set.

SJDonovan31 Jul 2014 9:17 a.m. PST

Bruce Quarrie's Airfix Napoleonics rules. I read them over and over again, still have them on my bookshelf, but have never played them.

Texas Jack31 Jul 2014 9:18 a.m. PST

Featherstone´s Battles with Model Soldiers. Bought it with Christmas money, so I hope that counts. I was too young for it, I just looked at the pictures for the first two years I had it. Then I started reading the text, and something happened…

Who asked this joker31 Jul 2014 9:21 a.m. PST

Tractics. Went in on it with a friend. Which reminds me, I need to get him the extra copy I have. wink

First boardgame was probably Third Reich.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP31 Jul 2014 9:21 a.m. PST

@dragon6 – thanks. Can't believe I've never seen them before, but as far as I can recall I haven't !

Garand31 Jul 2014 9:23 a.m. PST

IIRC Rules According to Ral, from Ral Partha.

Damon.

Stryderg31 Jul 2014 9:25 a.m. PST

BattleTech in college. Warhammer 40K (3rd ed?) after college. Then moved on to many free sets (ShockForce, Full Thrust, bunches I've downloaded and read but never played)

Dynaman878931 Jul 2014 9:29 a.m. PST

Squad Leader, Cross of Iron in specific.

If it has to be Miniatures rules that would be "Command at Sea" by Metagaming. Never actually played. After that it would Harpoon or Command Decision – not sure which was first.

Wackmole931 Jul 2014 9:31 a.m. PST

Mid 1970's Chainmail then WRG 4th edition

PJ ONeill31 Jul 2014 9:34 a.m. PST

Johnny Reb I

RKE Steve31 Jul 2014 9:35 a.m. PST

Shockforce

Forager31 Jul 2014 9:36 a.m. PST

For me, it would have to be J.E.B.!(ACW rules by Scott Bowden) or possibly Legion (Ancients rules by F.G.U.) in mid-70's, I think.

bobspruster31 Jul 2014 9:37 a.m. PST

Tricolor, around 76 or 77 I think:
link
Bob

DsGilbert31 Jul 2014 9:38 a.m. PST

Squad Leader as a game, but first miniatures based game was a combo of WH40K Rogue Trader and Blood Bowl first edition.

brass131 Jul 2014 9:44 a.m. PST

Jack Scruby's rules, the name of which escapes me. I still have them around the house somewhere.

LT

redmist112231 Jul 2014 9:45 a.m. PST

I want to say either Napoleon's Battles or Johnny Reb 1 box sets.

P.

GarrisonMiniatures31 Jul 2014 9:48 a.m. PST

WRG 3rd Edition Ancients. Would have been 2nd Edition but they had sold out and the new ones were 3rd.

HistoriFigs31 Jul 2014 9:54 a.m. PST

First miniature rules purchased would have been one of these: Chainmail, Tractics or Fire and Charge (Jack Scruby's Napoleonic rules).

elsyrsyn31 Jul 2014 9:55 a.m. PST

I think the first stand-alone single period miniatures rules I ever bought were probably WRG 7th.

Before that, I had purchased an introductory sort of book with rules for a variety of periods from ancients to WWII aircraft. "Getting Started with Miniatures Wargaming" or something like that. Smallish trade paperback thing. I still have it around, but it's packed in an inaccessible box at present.

Before those, there were plenty of AH games, Task Force games, Steve Jackson games, home brewed rules for action figures, and so on.

Doug

vdal181231 Jul 2014 10:06 a.m. PST

Universal Soldier from RAFM in 1984 and WRG 1685-1845 also in 1984.

Fat Wally31 Jul 2014 10:20 a.m. PST

WRG 3rd Edition.

DontFearDareaper Fezian31 Jul 2014 10:21 a.m. PST

My first miniatures rules was probably Tractics , followed in short order by Swords and Spells and then Empire III. I probably bought Chainmail before S&S but we never tried to play it as a miniatures game. We did try Swords and Spells but didn't care for it much. Tractics and Empire were gaming staples for me for years.

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