Help support TMP


"Historical Wargames Podcast Episode 24 is Available" Topic


3 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Podcasts of War Message Board


Action Log

31 Dec 2016 9:14 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Crossposted to Podcasts of War board

03 Jan 2017 5:14 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Removed from DBx board


568 hits since 27 Jul 2014
©1994-2017 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

Socalwarhammer Inactive Member27 Jul 2014 2:01 a.m. PST

Historical Wagames Podcast Episode 24- Pulling Back the Curtain on DBA 3.0

In this episode, I have a long & detailed talk with Joe Collins and Tom Thomas, two of the play-testers of De Bellis Antiquitatis 3.0- better known to the world as DBA. Each of these gentlemen open discuss the design process and what the DBA Community can expect to see with the upcoming release of version 3 and the open distribution of the partial PDF release of the rules last month by Sue Barker, co-designer and wife of Phil Barker. As always we hope you enjoy the show.

historicalwargames.org
thehistorynetwork.org

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP28 Jul 2014 12:01 p.m. PST

This is a very good program on the development of DBA 3, which also gives much insight into the new rules. Since Phil and Sue have been making the new rules available free at various stages of development, many players have been making suggestions and now can get the final version on line. Nevertheless, this background information is quite interesting and useful.

The interviewer has many good questions, and the responders, Joe Collins and Tom Thomas, both frequent posters here, have excellent answers. They were much more diplomatic than i would have been :) I disliked many aspects along the way, but most were fixed and the language made so much more understandable. I do not know much history, as Phil often says, so my contribution was to get clear statements of the rules, but I did not argue for specific rules , Those two, along with a dozen of the other Helpers provided much historical background to give the game a good grounding in facts.

One question posed to the respondents was, what is still lacking. They mentioned a couple of aspects. From my perspective, the biggest lack is a page or two more of the battle rules section to allow bullet points and some examples of play to clarify certain aspects. Phil, was adamant, however, that the rules fit into 5 pages. Very strange.

Luckily the Diagrams cover many components that are tricky. Fifteen pages of diagrams to cover 5 pages of rules, and the diagrams do not even cover pursuits. That should allow even the newest newbie to understand the game.

I hope there is another interview of Phil and Sue when the book is published to get some background on their ideas. And Sue too, after her book on Starting Ancient Wargaming is released.

Thanks much to Historical Wargames Podcasts for this useful service.

Socalwarhammer Inactive Member28 Jul 2014 12:42 p.m. PST

Thanks Bobgnar.

Hopefully we can revisit this discussion after the rules get published. I think both Joe and Tom are very appreciative of your numerous attempts at attempting to get the clearest language possible.

I guess my real goal, and thus the role of the podcast- to have people have fun and play historical wargames. Thanks for listening.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.