"Has anyone gamed the Battle for Castle Itter?" Topic

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A book on the subject came out last year, and the wikipedia article contains some links.
It just looks like a fun one-off or even a convention game.

"t was also the only battle where Americans and Germans fought as allies during the war."

What rules would you use?

And who makes a 28mm Easy 8?
I have the Warhammer plastic castle…

I think Warlord makes the Easy 8, but I could wrong. Goodness John, you are really diversifying your WWII activities these days.

Now that I have caught up with some work, I have enough 28mm figures in the queue for a game of "Eat Hitler!", which will be my gateway drug to 28mm WW2. I got the dinosaurs at Dollar tree.

And to think that 10 years ago, I flat out refused to get into WW2, since I would have to choose between either Nazis or Commies. Then, and FoW and marginally Cy6 got me hooked, and the Commies are the biggest army that I own.

So is 28mm the new rage in WWII? I am unfashionable enough to do it in 10mm, but at least I can field a Czech army if I want

The main reason though is more mundane, those bigger scale tanks are just too expensive for me!

I have a huge FoW Yank army and of course my regular opponents have Huns.
However I don't need all they many figures. It seems that a single figure 28mm rules set would work fine here.
And I would only need one tank from what I can see.

I'd still game it in 15mm. Boy, what a small defending force!

1 Sherman, 14 American soldiers, one Kubelwagen, and one larger truck carrying 10 German soldiers, versus a crapton of SS from the 17th SS Panzergrenadier Division.

Oh, OK, there's also the US 142nd Infantry Regiment rolling to the rescue, and a number of the French prisoners took up arms, but that's still one impressive stand!

Never heard of this battle--but it sounds neat (and I have 28mm figs), but when I just glimpsed at the title to this thread, I read "Has Anyone Gamed the Battle of Cat Litter."

Having just shoveled out the downstairs box, you can thank
Putty, Benjamin, Remi, and Valeria for that particular thought.

I have a 1/50 Easy 8 and enough figures for the US and German troops, but nothing that could be used for French prisoners. I do have a figure that could do as a single resistance fighter, so the Austrians are covered, in any event. I wonder if I can convert some figures into older-looking prisoner types.

Rob

This was discussed before on TMP. I think it was one of Tango01's interesting finds. Several comments, from what I remember was that this would have made an excellent Hollywood action movie.

Bolt Action, Chain of Command, Rate of Fire would all be good choices. If you are starved for players, the first two still have their shiny luster with the greater gaming world.

Yes, I remember the previous TMP thread. I agree it has the making of an interesting game and movie(if done right?) …

if done right?

It's Hollywood! What could possibly go wrong?!

It's Hollywood! What could possibly go wrong?!

And there is the rub …

I know this is an older thread, but I'm trying to run a flames of war historical battle based on the battle for castle itter at my local game store, so I'm trying to do it in 15mm/1:100 scale. I figured out how to do it in flames, ie the forces to use to replicate the defenders, the Austrian resistance, the SS division attacking the castle, the American relief forces, etc, all of that, all using the flames of war v4 late war books and all. Here's the problem I've run into: I need the castle to do it, and I don't have one. I even have the mapping of the terrain around it where everything took place in order to figure out how many tables I would need to do it, and where forests and roads and towns and stuff would go, I just don't have a freaking castle to go with it, and I'm pretty much stuck on that side of it. I'm stumped. I don't have a file to have someone print the castle or even parts of the castle, I don't have measurements or blue prints, nothing, I'm just stuck. I know how the castle is roughly laid out as to where outer walls, towers, and gates would be, but no idea as to measurements or anything more precise. I've seen where people made some out of laser cut wood or something like that for 28mm, but not really any sizes or whatnot, and no idea how that would even scale down to 15mm, not to mention I don't know anyone who has the stuff to do that, the laser cutting and etching. I've seen where people have made it out of legos, but again, that's for a different scale, in that case being minifigure scaled, so again, not helpful, not to mention I no longer have legos to even try that route. So I need some help. Also, I'm not, as some would say, flush with cash, and when it comes to building models, I'm at a relatively low/beginner level, just barely starting to make the foray into building models that are harder to build than flames of war stuff, but I do have people who would be willing to help out building the stuff for the battle. If anybody can help me, I would greatly appreciate it. Maybe a 3d print file?

Building the castle is the least issue. The first issue is layout, inevitably the castle and the ground scale will be out of whack. So the real layout may have to be compromised. The walls may need to be sized to the maximum number of figures you need to accommodate, not how big it was.
I did do many moons ago a 1/72 scale set of fold flat sections. that is a wall section about 250mm(10"), a small square tower the wall interfaces with proably 50 mm square and a Keep taller square tower larger in size, it's ages ago but proably 150mm sides. On top of that a gatehouse about the width of a wall section. Image wise not terribly impressive but sized to be as close to practical as possible, a castle larger than say machine gun range (800m) is likely to be horrifically out of scale and just be ridiculous.

It would be a simple job to just scale down the CADDS images for printing on 3000m card. For the artistry standard you could look at our spot on wargames vault publisher Maneouver Group, or look at other stuff on the "vault" they have lots of card buildings if storage is not an issue and all could be scaled down if requied. But first size does matter