"Possible Military Cap Badge?" Topic
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| GreyONE | 10 Jul 2014 1:50 p.m. PST |
While cleaning up my studio I found an object I was given a few years ago. A friend of mine was metal detecting around the city of New Westminister, BC (Canada) when he found this object (next to the Pattullo Bridge, on a large grass slope/field). He figured it was an old cap badge. It measures about 30x35mm in size and was brass/gold plated at one time. It depicts a double-headed eagle, wearing small crowns, grasping a sword (?) its right talon and a globus cruciger in its left. There were two wing like devices on its back, but only the left one remains. Looks Russian or Prussian, but the crown looks English. I tried to look it up online, but never had any luck. Maybe its just a commercial logo/souvenir? Doesn't appear to be the Smirnoff logo, although since the logo changed over the last 125 years, you never know.
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| Dicymick | 11 Jul 2014 4:23 a.m. PST |
It looks like a damaged UK WO2 RQMS wrist badge. Not sure about the colours though. |
| GreyONE | 11 Jul 2014 12:36 p.m. PST |
I never heard of wrist badges. I will have to continue my searching. Thank you for the info! I also searched medals issued during the war, but that yielded nothing. Its a Russian Eagle with a British Crown. My only guess is that it was given to Russian volunteers serving in the British (Canadian?) forces during WWI or WWII, or issued to soldiers who fought in Russia or somehow were involved with the fighting in Russia (Merchant Ship crews? Arkhangelsk?). It could also be an informal badge, produced privately, and given out to volunteers, but because its the imperial eagle, not a Soviet symbol/logo, it may be WWI or early 1920s. I thought of the Russian volunteers who fought on the Western Front from 1916 to 1918, but those soldiers were supplied by the French. |
| willthepiper | 11 Jul 2014 3:05 p.m. PST |
That looks like the St Edward's or Queen's crown, which was introduced in 1952 with the accession of Queen Elizabeth. For the first half of the century, the crown was a Tudor crown (slightly different shape). (that's assuming it's a Canadian military badge)
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| willthepiper | 11 Jul 2014 3:37 p.m. PST |
On the other hand, during Queen Victoria's reign, the St Edward's crown appears to have been used, so this may be a 19th century badge.
link That doesn't explain the connection between a British crown and a Russian imperial eagle, though! |
| GreyONE | 14 Jul 2014 1:33 p.m. PST |
I thought perhaps it was from a medal, issued for services in, or in association with, Russia, or against Russia, such as the Crimea, but that would appear to be too early. I searched through many pages of medals, but none matched. I also searched Russian medals to see if there were any issued for services rendered to England from Russian during the various wars, but none matched either. It may be a White Russian medal, unit badge, or club/association logo/badge (Russian Civil War survivors who fled Russia) but that seems unlikely. |
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