| The Gray Ghost | 10 Jul 2014 1:35 p.m. PST |
Russian officers sash color please for 1805 |
| Mark RedLinePS | 10 Jul 2014 2:17 p.m. PST |
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| 14Bore | 10 Jul 2014 2:29 p.m. PST |
It was made of Silver lace or fabric with 3 interwoven lines of mixed black and orange, often wrapped around twice showing more lines of black and orange. |
| jeffreyw3 | 10 Jul 2014 3:20 p.m. PST |
Sasha should be here any minute telling us who sewed them… :) |
| xxxxxxx | 10 Jul 2014 7:09 p.m. PST |
офицерский шарф / ofitserskiy sharf / officer's sash Maybe more woven than sewn …. by Yelizabeta Rosskiy, or so goes the legend (also famous for flags).
:-)
Length was about 1.4 m, with tassels about 27 cm …. some officers wore it over the shoulder on campaign. The orange and black was silk. The silver was thin silver wire twisted or braided about linen threads. From January 1812, officers, in order to reduce their expenses, were permitted to have white shako cords, sashes, and swordknots instead of silver ones, and forged brass appointments on the epaulettes instead of gold. - Sasha |
 ochoin  | 11 Jul 2014 2:17 a.m. PST |
Sasha is a National Treasure! |
| jeffreyw3 | 11 Jul 2014 9:26 a.m. PST |
very nice picture Sasha--you have any more of those lying about? |
| DHautpol | 11 Jul 2014 9:36 a.m. PST |
The black and orange bands are more pronounced than some book illustrations would suggest. Still, in 6mm I just painted the sashes silver and had done with it. I don't know if its just my monitor but the coat seems to have a definite blue tinge to it; I'm guessing that the yellow element of the green dye has faded, leaving the blue behind. |
| xxxxxxx | 11 Jul 2014 9:51 a.m. PST |
I just searched in google images with the Russian name for the thing …. it was the best close-up image I could find – a reconstruction of an Aleksandr era sash. This one was made under the direction of the history department of the Bashkir university at Ufa. Iit is a very rigorous faculty, so I bet they got it right. It looks (correctly I think) hand-knot or hand-woven. The example was for a typical junior officer …. I imagine rich senior officers might have ones made with more "slivery" silver buillon [?] thread. Most illustrations and museums, and hence most reconstructions, show the later one from Nicolas' reign (with less prominent orange and black). These were machine-woven. - Sasha |
| jeffreyw3 | 11 Jul 2014 10:11 a.m. PST |
Yeah, I don't believe it's period (and Sasha's remarks would seem to indicate so), but yes, I was very surprised by the blue. (Actually why I asked about more pics) :-) Superb painting reference though. |
| Widowson | 11 Jul 2014 12:07 p.m. PST |
Yes, the orange is much more pronounced than I would have expected. Thanks, Sasha. |
| 14Bore | 11 Jul 2014 2:24 p.m. PST |
The picture makes me re-think that in 15mm I should try to put some orange on them (just plain silver for now). |
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