Redcoat 55 | 09 Jul 2014 10:34 p.m. PST |
I bought these off Ebay for use in 15mm AWI gaming. link (click the photo to enlarge the image) I suspect they are from an earlier period, but they work and due to the lack of belts and other equipment they would be quick to paint. Does anyone know the maker and line? Thank you in advance, Redcoat 55 |
Oh Bugger | 10 Jul 2014 2:17 a.m. PST |
They look like QRF 7YW or AWI artillerymen who have been cut from their bases and recycled as casualties. QRF do actual casualty figures but these are not them. They currently have a sale on 20% off if that's of interest. |
Jeigheff | 10 Jul 2014 5:02 a.m. PST |
I agree with Oh : they look conversions. Your figures might be the old Frontier figures, which have been out of production for years. They had stocky builds, especially the legs. It's possible the original owner had a handful of these figures, too few in number to make units, and with little hope of getting more. So he improvised and turned them into casualty markers. |
Dn Jackson | 10 Jul 2014 5:10 a.m. PST |
Look like the old Musket Miniatures line to me. Picture's too small to be sure. |
Son of MOOG | 10 Jul 2014 5:19 a.m. PST |
I believe them to be Musket Miniatures. They were originally (I think) Stone Mountain. They do British casualty figures in their AWI range and also in the MAW line (which I have). The casualty figures are the same as the regular figures but with the bases removed and guns trimmed off, many Artillerist figures are used also. Hope this helps, Tom |
Lord Elpus | 10 Jul 2014 6:12 a.m. PST |
The one at the top, in red, is called Dave Smith. I'm afraid I don't recognise any of the others. Have you tried the Red Cross? |
Early morning writer | 10 Jul 2014 6:18 a.m. PST |
I give a third to the Musket Miniatures source – and while they've been around a while, they are still available. I have many of them. Some may argue, but I like that line of figures and have sourced much of my infantry from them. Clearly, much of the inspiration comes from the Mollo AWI uniform book (Blandford press???). Certainly, they paint up nice and easy compared to many other ranges. And they are compatible with Mini-Figs, Freikorps (QRF), Polly Oliver (now back in production), and other similar sized ranges. Wouldn't mix with Lancacshire, Old Glory, Blue Moon, or Irregular – all much bigger. Are the ones you bought based on coins or washers? Definitely not the Freikorps casualties, by the way – but those are nice to have as well. |
Redcoat 55 | 10 Jul 2014 6:49 a.m. PST |
Thank you for the input, but I know they are not Musket Miniatures and I know they are not conversions. One thing I should have noted is the painter said they came with tall gaiters, but he painted them to look different. As I look closely at them, most appear to have a waist belt over the coat and the tails appear to be painted on most of them too. The gaiters are tall, over the knee SYW or earlier style. They could even be pre Seven Years War. One figure has a cross belt with pouch and tails. I will add a closeup picture to the album. You need to click the picture to see it full size. Early Morning Writer, they are mounted on wooden disks. |
Oh Bugger | 10 Jul 2014 6:56 a.m. PST |
These are the lads I was thinking of link |
Redcoat 55 | 10 Jul 2014 7:07 a.m. PST |
Wow, Oh , I can see why those came to mind, and they are close, but not the exact figures. I like some of the other casualty figures in that line too! link |
Oh Bugger | 10 Jul 2014 7:12 a.m. PST |
Yeah those casualty figures are pretty good I add them to battalion bases for variety. So the mystery continues… |
Redcoat 55 | 10 Jul 2014 8:18 a.m. PST |
Duplicate post deleted. not sure how it happened |
StoneMtnMinis | 10 Jul 2014 1:08 p.m. PST |
The Musket figures are not old Stone Mountain figures. Our 15mm AWI has been oop for a while but we will be bringing it back in a few weeks. Dave HistoricalMiniatures.com |
Early morning writer | 10 Jul 2014 8:17 p.m. PST |
Redcoat, why do you say you are sure they are not Musket Miniatures? I have bunches of them and I'm pretty darned sure that is what they are. They're not QRF, Minifig, we've been suitably informed they are not Stone Mountain, and I don't recollect Polly Oliver made casualty figures (could be wrong), and they are absolutely not Peter Pig. Doesn't leave any other options. And, Dave, you scoundrel, I just 'finished' my AWI collection, nearing 4,800 figures – are you trying to get me in trouble with my wife, sir? Are you going to do the limbers with civilian drivers again? I might be able to justify some of those, at least. Oh, bother. : ) |
Redcoat 55 | 11 Jul 2014 8:04 a.m. PST |
Early Morning Writer, I don't think they are Musket Miniatures AWI casualties for two reasons: The guy who painted them said they were not AWI troops and I have seen the Musket Miniatures casualty figures. As an update, the painter told me he did modify these by removing bases so I guess all bets are off and I won't be able to get more "off the shelf". Thank you for all the thought and suggestions everyone. I appreciate the help and apologize if I have wasted your time. |
Jeigheff | 12 Jul 2014 2:18 p.m. PST |
Hi Redcoat 55, I did not consider this to be a waste of time at all! But I do wish that one of us had been able to give you a definitive answer. Jeff |
musket1 | 12 Jul 2014 7:34 p.m. PST |
I don't know the origin of these figures, but they are NOT Musket Miniatures. Jim (Musket Miniatures designer) |
Redcoat 55 | 12 Jul 2014 9:56 p.m. PST |
Another update, the painter emailed me that he did not remove any bases, so maybe they are available somewhere, although it sure is starting to look like the operative phrase should be "were available" at one time. For anyone who is considering making 15mm casualties the thing I love about these guys is they don't have tons of gear on them so they could be painted very quickly, yet look a lot better than a die on the table or rings around figures to mark hits. They also go very well with my Blue Moon AWI figures. |
Early morning writer | 13 Jul 2014 8:29 a.m. PST |
Well, then, I'm bolloxed on where these came from. If not AWI (and not Musket), then it almost certainly has to be from a Seven Years War range. But who? 'Tis a mystery of interest that will haunt me, sure. Will be keeping an eye out, certain, is that. (And, Jim, thanks for weighing in.) And, Redcoat, any chance the image is a reversed image? Don't thing so but that might open so options. |
Redcoat 55 | 13 Jul 2014 8:54 a.m. PST |
I took the second picture myself, so no, not a reversed image. As the tails were painted on most of the figures I am wondering if these may be from something pre-Seven Years War, like Marlborough or the Great Northern War? |