Sho Boki | 01 Jun 2014 2:12 a.m. PST |
There was arguing in other topic yesterday – how many ranks on base infantry must have in 6mm. I decided to sculpt some 6mm figures and check it out. boki.ee/Miniature_Sculpting/A00001/B6mm.htm First figure on worktable..
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Ben Lacy | 01 Jun 2014 4:29 a.m. PST |
You are an artist sir! Your DAK figures are truly astounding. |
KaweWeissiZadeh | 01 Jun 2014 5:54 a.m. PST |
You might well set a standard if the above is true 6-7mm |
von Winterfeldt | 01 Jun 2014 9:12 a.m. PST |
impressive sculpting (as usual) |
Toronto48 | 01 Jun 2014 10:03 a.m. PST |
The figures go back to 2010 but there is no indication that any are for sale From the pictures they look lie a large 6mm How much detail would survive the casting is still an open question ? Source link
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Sho Boki | 01 Jun 2014 10:50 a.m. PST |
Thanks! Yes, exactly 6mm from ground to eyes.
Must fix eyes and musket.. and add shako and rolled overcoat. |
Sho Boki | 01 Jun 2014 10:59 a.m. PST |
Toronto48. I start sell my 15(18)mm works on last year. See here.. boki.ee/Painted_Figs/Painted_Figs.htm How much detail would survive the 6mm casting is right question. I dont know yet. But I will ascertain. And what do you mean by large 6mm? Napoleon on this picture are exactly 6mm (from ground to eyes). First picture on your post are visual evidence for one TMP topic, where people arguing, in what scale uniforms goes generic. Little figures there are only plane samples, quickly sculpted and destroyed after photoshoot. |
Sho Boki | 01 Jun 2014 2:21 p.m. PST |
Enough for today, finish on next day.
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optional field | 01 Jun 2014 2:22 p.m. PST |
Those are amazing, although I doubt I could do them justice in painting them
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Toronto48 | 01 Jun 2014 2:58 p.m. PST |
Hi Sho First of all I love your figures and would definitely buy them when you get them up into production. I am a big 6mm fan and prefer gaming in that scale. I did not mean to criticize your figures by putting them into the "large " category A lot of gamers confuse 5 and 6mm figures so I wanted to show that you figures are on the size level as Alder and Baccus although your anatomy and proportion look better.
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CaptainKGL | 01 Jun 2014 6:16 p.m. PST |
Nice Sho! Love 6mm figs. Yours look fantastic. |
Sho Boki | 02 Jun 2014 10:13 a.m. PST |
Thanks. :-) Toronto48, initially I don't have plans to put them into production. But so many people already ask this, so if I am happy with final result, I will put this little fellow into production. When I sculpt my first 6mm in 2010, I choosing, in wich scale I want to sculpt. After trying different scales, I stays on 15(18)mm and set goal – one day I want to sculpt as good as Tony Barton. My 2010 year 6mm figures are without wired skeleton, I sculpt them half by half, on plain paper. I am not happy with them. But now fresh picture from last little fellow. Must add shako's side shevrons and bayonet scabbard.
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Dr Mike Salwey | 02 Jun 2014 10:32 a.m. PST |
Excellent – I really would recommend doing some test casts of your work, these deserve to be in production! |
CaptainKGL | 02 Jun 2014 2:50 p.m. PST |
I agree with Mike. Test cast some. |
Sho Boki | 03 Jun 2014 8:30 a.m. PST |
24 pieces I cast anyway. As I say in first comment, I sculpt them for testing – how many ranks are needed in 6mm for portraing on table thin line of battalions. Must be two or one are enough. Now all needed details added and after hardening I do final elaboration before molding.
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von Winterfeldt | 03 Jun 2014 9:44 a.m. PST |
AB sculpts on tiles and uses FIMO – simply amazing |
Sho Boki | 03 Jun 2014 11:11 a.m. PST |
1/6 heads, yes. And standing figures too. But I never found pictures, how AB sculpt marching 18mm napoleonic infantry figures. I have now pack of Super Sculpey, but consider Tamiya Putty better for me. |
Sparta | 03 Jun 2014 1:12 p.m. PST |
I think it looks great. Whatever people choose to call them, I think compatibilty with the Adler range would be a great target. |
arthur1815 | 04 Jun 2014 2:59 a.m. PST |
Incredible workmanship! I would have thought the figure was at least 10/12mm ( if they were, I'd buy them like a shot!)from the detail, even 15/18mm. |
Sho Boki | 04 Jun 2014 11:05 a.m. PST |
Varnished, ready for moulding..
..and according to comparation chart, showed above by Toronto48, more in range of Baccus than Adler. Arthur1815, you collect 10mm figures? Or 12mm? Who is the best producer of such scale napoleonics? |
danikine74 | 05 Jun 2014 6:19 a.m. PST |
i m waiting for you to make my old gurds brigades
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Sho Boki | 05 Jun 2014 6:36 a.m. PST |
First half of mould.. everything looks normal.. no bubbles..
Gurds? Some muslim ot Indian troops?
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Sho Boki | 05 Jun 2014 7:33 p.m. PST |
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von Winterfeldt | 05 Jun 2014 11:01 p.m. PST |
for testing this ok, but you should use a professional caster to give credit to your sculpting skills. |
Sho Boki | 06 Jun 2014 2:12 a.m. PST |
You are right of cource, but there are one little problem, we don't have one on entire country. It's may be, that I am the only one.. This is the reason, why I try to learn the casting secrets, as before I learn the painting and sculpting secrets. |
CaptainKGL | 06 Jun 2014 3:46 a.m. PST |
I like the casting Sho. Lots of potential here. Sucks about the casting situation but I'm sure you'll master that too. |
von Winterfeldt | 06 Jun 2014 8:04 a.m. PST |
Maybe you can outsource the casting – it certainly distracts you from sculpting and painting – you could produce more masters in case you don't have to worry any longer about casting |
Sho Boki | 06 Jun 2014 11:57 a.m. PST |
Thanks, CaptainKGL. The casting results are perfect and the only problem is the length of bayonets. But I hope to resolve this with air escape paths. You confusing me, von Winterfeldt. What is the difference for outsource the casting to professional caster and using professional caster? Danikine74, you probably mean Old Guard? Sorry that I don't understand instantly. |
Sho Boki | 06 Jun 2014 10:08 p.m. PST |
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Sho Boki | 08 Jun 2014 6:36 a.m. PST |
I have done experiments with my unpainted figures. Must say, that in spite of how many I love only one range, in 6mm the two ranges are better. The two rows of shiny bayonets looks good and what is more important – only one range tend to fall over. Therefore I prepare now strips with 6 soldiers, 15mm x 3mm. Two such strips in two ranks (12 soldiers, 15mm x 6-7mm) may form half of game unit and with this halfunits we may form line (30 x 7mm), column (15 x 14mm) or square for full unit. Is this OK? |
Sho Boki | 08 Jun 2014 11:09 a.m. PST |
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Sparta | 08 Jun 2014 11:53 p.m. PST |
That is goin to look really well. Amazing if you can cram 6 figs of scu detail into 15 mm. |
Sparta | 09 Jun 2014 3:05 a.m. PST |
Going to look
.. such detail
.. :-) Are you planning on a whole range, or just a gew figs? |
Sho Boki | 09 Jun 2014 3:49 a.m. PST |
Couple of days ago I have only plan to test my sculpting and casting capabilities today in 6mm. But I am so happy with results that I allready converse this figure to grenadier, austrian infantryman and russian musketeer too. Then I will make them available and if people are happy with them too as I am.. then I go to full range. In addition of my 15(18)mm range of course. |
Edzard | 10 Jun 2014 7:47 a.m. PST |
These look good, I hope you get a miniatures line off the ground! |
Sho Boki | 30 Jun 2014 12:05 a.m. PST |
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flipper | 01 Jul 2014 11:58 a.m. PST |
Hi Nice, very nice! I will be interested to see how you deal with flag bearers! As they tend to be frail
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CaptainKGL | 05 Jul 2014 4:44 a.m. PST |
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The Burt | 05 Jul 2014 11:12 p.m. PST |
OUTSTANDING. I, too, sculpt in the 6mm scale so I know how difficult it can be. Truly exceptional. Keep up the good work! |
Sho Boki | 07 Jul 2014 5:22 a.m. PST |
Thanks guys! Molds hardening in the oven, on the evening I begin casting. Then it will be clear, are they worth something or not. Hold your fingers crossed..
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CATenWolde | 07 Jul 2014 5:35 a.m. PST |
Hi Sho – I'm glad to see that you've been hard at work! These look great
and since you are experimenting, might I just note that no one currently does an early Austrian line in 6mm (the 1790's uniform with the casquet headgear, used during Napoleon's Italian campaigns and even through the later Switzerland and Marengo campaigns). A range compatible with Adler's great early French range would be great! I'm not sure about the 15mm strips – it might be that a 20mm width would be more popular in terms of base sizes? Cheers, Christopher |
Sho Boki | 07 Jul 2014 6:15 a.m. PST |
Hi Christopher.. When 6mm doll is ready, the surface sculpting is relatively easy to do, imho. So all armies can be sculpted easily, if compare with 15mm scale. But I afraid, that the real problem is the casting.. all this tiny bayonets. Strips length is experimental. French fusiliers can fit in 15mm, but new ones sadly not. Russian rolled greatcoat over the shoulder, Austrian canteen and French greanadier sword don't let put neighbours hands behind each other. |
CATenWolde | 07 Jul 2014 7:23 a.m. PST |
You can stretch them out a bit and it will still look very good. Keep in mind that both Adler and Baccus fit 5 figures per 20mm, so you have plenty of room to play with. I wonder if there is anybody over here around H'sinki that does casting? |
Sho Boki | 12 Jul 2014 10:28 a.m. PST |
Damn! 3 days I cast and get no one fully casted strip, allways some figure don't get his bayonet. Gravity casting don't have enough pressure. Solution.. I order centricast machine from Tiranti and try with 3 figure strips. This must be work.. |
LeonAdler | 12 Jul 2014 3:16 p.m. PST |
Im afraid your going to be seriously hamstrung without the proper production kit and even then its not quite as simple as it looks. L |
von Winterfeldt | 13 Jul 2014 3:25 a.m. PST |
I agree with Leon Adler, why not contact Griffin in the UK or Schilling in Germany, both seemingly excellent casters. |
Sho Boki | 15 Jul 2014 5:24 a.m. PST |
This may be the next step, if I fail with centricast machine.. |
Sho Boki | 18 Jul 2014 7:41 a.m. PST |
New gravity mould with 3 figure strip.
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CATenWolde | 18 Jul 2014 8:23 a.m. PST |
Well, the ones on the right seem to look just fine! Is the strip 15-20mm? |
Sho Boki | 18 Jul 2014 8:48 a.m. PST |
Left ones are as casted. You may then paint them separately and pull together after.. and they stay as right ones. Strip with 3 figures is 8 x 4 mm. |