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OSchmidt29 May 2014 6:55 a.m. PST

I have an idea.

Why not make it when you ignore people, have the same program also remove the posts of the ignored from those whom they have voted to ignore. So if A ignores B, not only does he not even see B's posts, but B does not see A's posts.

After all, if the person you are ignoring has nothing you want to hear, then how in the world would you ever want such a person to benefit from the precious brilliancies that tumble from your lips and through your fingers.

Why it would be casting pearls before swine!

Same with Stifling. Why not make the stifle both ways, after all if you hate someone so much as to stifle him, then surely it must be reciprocal.

Two Owl Bob29 May 2014 7:11 a.m. PST

Why not? Maybe because that would be ostracism. It is one thing to ignore someone, everbody can make that choice for their selves. It is entirely another matter to say "I am not talking to you" and go off to talk to everyone else behind their back. Very bad idea.

I have been away for a few years, I see there hasn't been much progress on the sociability front.

John the OFM29 May 2014 7:12 a.m. PST

No.
I dislike the notion of somebody else's action affecting how I enjoy my TMP experience.
Anybody who stifles or ignores ME is of course by definition a blithering idiot. Why should what I see be affecting by the actions of such a person?

Bandit29 May 2014 7:16 a.m. PST

The logic problem is that it would mean that someone else gets to decide if I see their posts, therefore somewhat reversing the original purpose of the tool.

The core problem with expanding 'Stifle' whether it be via 'Ignore' or some other expanded feature set is that it reduces the amount of community in the community. Such tools offered and used sparingly do not have much impact on this but as the availability and use of such tools grows, after a while you're having conversations that are only available to and participated in by like six people… which sorta defeats the purpose of having a website community with thousands of users.

Lastly, to directly reply to your notion, hate is commonly not both ways.

Cheers,

The Bandit

John the OFM29 May 2014 7:54 a.m. PST

Another problem is that my stifling you would then be evident to you. This would have am affect on the anonymity of it all.

cloudcaptain29 May 2014 7:55 a.m. PST

That's a surefire way to create a Moebius loop. You will get us all trapped on today's version of the site.

Cyrus the Great29 May 2014 8:22 a.m. PST

This has gotten to the point of being beyond ridiculous. I've never stifled anyone, not even BME and I thought his behavior close to cyber-stalking one particular person. I won't "Ignore" anyone either. If people choose to do it to me, that's their business, but I have enough self control to open the threads I want to read and pass by those that don't interest me.

jeffreyw329 May 2014 8:30 a.m. PST

Why shouldn't the stifle-ee know who has stifled him?

John the OFM29 May 2014 8:46 a.m. PST

Why should he? I have 263 stifles and 48 ignores. I do not care who did it nor why.
Making this public would only lead to much more bad feelings here. We do not need that.

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP29 May 2014 9:15 a.m. PST

And yet another post on stifles and ignores…
What next? Online TMP sensitivity training for those offended either way?
Let it go and go play a game.

15th Hussar29 May 2014 10:02 a.m. PST

Quite Frankly the IGNORE button should be the coin of the realm, as on CSW. But CSW does not advertise the fact that you are being ignored by others.

Just dump the (rude sounding) STIFLE and let everyone IGNORE who they wish.

Rebelyell200629 May 2014 10:20 a.m. PST

I like being able to read whole conversations. I also have 136 stifles and 20 ignores, while I have not stifled or ignored anybody. Mutual stifling is a stupid idea because it assumes that the emotions that lead to stifling run on a two-way street. They don't. The animosity you guys feel towards me are not shared by me. Tango hasn't indicated that he hates you guys. The OFM, well his post is above. OP, are you sarcastically highlighting the stupidity of the stifling argument?

Silent Pool29 May 2014 10:22 a.m. PST

…CSW does not advertise the fact that you are being ignored by others.

Just dump the (rude sounding) STIFLE and let everyone IGNORE who they wish.

I like the sound of that AP, throw out the wretched Stifle Table as well, eh?

Knight of St John29 May 2014 10:27 a.m. PST

I didn't think I would ever stifle or ignor anyone but I have found it usefull for getting rid of the troll that keeps popping up.

Personal logo Doctor X Supporting Member of TMP29 May 2014 10:28 a.m. PST

Suggesting the stifle count table get thrown out is right up there with throwing out post counts. You may have just succeeded in merging the top two angst ridden TMP topics into one thread.

Expect the stats people to respond soon with their outrage…

Caesar29 May 2014 11:14 a.m. PST

Why care who has stifled or ignored you?
Have some self-esteem.

Robert Kennedy29 May 2014 12:43 p.m. PST

(Head smack)…Really? This subject again? Once again I have to agree with John.. Seems kinda retaliatory.Like Ignoring or Stifling someone is bad in some way. As I have always said.Get rid of the Stifle count from the Profile page. Complaints gone.Problem solved. No more of these kind of threads.

Sparker29 May 2014 2:56 p.m. PST

And yet another post on stifles and ignores…
What next? Online TMP sensitivity training for those offended either way?
Let it go and go play a game.

What he said!

14Bore29 May 2014 3:20 p.m. PST

If you want, I don't I might miss something.

Paint Pig29 May 2014 6:47 p.m. PST

Really Otto? So I get home log on and suddenly a whole batch of grey boxes appear where once there were none, essentially penalising me because another member wants to tailor their tmp experience to suit their own interests. You really thought this one through.

The only person on tmp who really cares about, and constantly monitors his transgressions against the sensitivities (ie the scoreboard) of the tmp membership, is that chap who is constantly bleating on about how he doesn't care. wink

regards
dave

Iowa Grognard Supporting Member of TMP29 May 2014 8:26 p.m. PST

Which side represents the "take my ball and go home" cliché?

badwargamer30 May 2014 1:57 a.m. PST

Meh?

Space Monkey30 May 2014 7:39 a.m. PST

I've always assumed that the folks who stifle the most also don't post very often… that even with a reverse stifle I wouldn't notice much difference.
But yeah, not a good idea.

John the OFM30 May 2014 12:26 p.m. PST

I do not wish what anyone else does on TMP to have any effect at all on what I do or see.

Iowa Grognard Supporting Member of TMP30 May 2014 1:17 p.m. PST

Which side represents the "I'm going to pee in your pool and then invite myself to your house for dinner every night" cliche?

If that's not a cliche, it should be…

Snowcat30 May 2014 7:10 p.m. PST

Well my stifle count has now risen from 14 to 16 in the last few days, and I now have 2 ignores (ie being ignored by 2 others I presume). Go figure. :)

Pretty sure I scored those initial 14 stifles in the Great TMP-Frothers War of Two-Thousand-and-Something…

jeffreyw331 May 2014 7:53 a.m. PST

Lol…hmmm, you're picking up ignores even though the feature doesn't work. I guess folks like to be prepared…

doug redshirt31 May 2014 2:31 p.m. PST

Strange now that you mention it. I picked up an ignore and a couple stifles today.

Snowcat31 May 2014 4:44 p.m. PST

See? True story! :)

Weasel04 Jun 2014 2:46 p.m. PST

People need to get a bit thicker skin I think.

It seems 97.8% of TMP is far to the right of where I am politically and I haven't stifled a single one of you damn tories and elephants :)

Talking to people that aren't like you is a part of becoming a reasonable human being.

Arteis06 Jun 2014 4:35 p.m. PST

Talking to people that aren't like you is a part of becoming a reasonable human being.

So is not requiring people who aren't like you to have a thicker skin because they don't want to see what you want them to see.

And, actually, so is being able to choose not to talk to someone who is like you, but who is taking over the conversation.

Imagine if everyone had to read everything the internet pushed at them. The Ignore button is simply a very tiny part of the huge filtering process to reduce the unimaginable mass of information on the internet down to what you personally want to interact with in those few minutes you're staring at your screen.

Robert Kennedy06 Jun 2014 8:43 p.m. PST

Hear,Hear Arteis. I think that some may just not be getting the concept for some reason.
wink

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP07 Jun 2014 8:37 a.m. PST

Anyway – the final "proof" that the Ignore/Tango01 debate was 99% froth and 1% problem – The Editor (may he live forever) brings the Ignore feature along and of the 3000 or so TMP members who visit per day a huge 50 people choose to Ignore Tango01.

Key words : Mountain / Molehill / teacup / storm / dead horse / flogging.

Tango0107 Jun 2014 10:53 a.m. PST

50 accounts my friend… 50 accounts (smile).

Amicalement
Armand

rtc10507 Jun 2014 12:26 p.m. PST

Maybe more people haven't been hitting the ignore button because it doesn't work? If it ever comes back, then it might be a different story.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP07 Jun 2014 4:22 p.m. PST

We'll have to wait and see. But there clearly wasn't the huge rush that one might have anticipated when it was first made active…just saying.

Arteis07 Jun 2014 6:03 p.m. PST

Actually, 50 'Ignores' in just a few days is a pretty impressive start, I would've thought! Even more so considering the tool was known to be having problems. It's certainly not a trifling result, considering ANYTHING is usually met with apathy by most people.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP09 Jun 2014 4:12 a.m. PST

Since those who vocally wanted an Ignore were suggesting that this was a function that would save TMP from an otherwise ineviatable demise I'd see 50 out of 37000+TMPers using it on the "target of choice" of those arguments as being a pretty small percentage.

But I'm not going to argue about it : I think 50 is few, and you think 50 is lots – there's not any more to say I suppose.

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