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jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP27 May 2014 4:37 a.m. PST

Gents

just to pre-advise Gringo40s will be covering these two
exotic units in some depth and hope to show pictures
of the initial greens soon,

regards
Ged
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cp models27 May 2014 5:09 a.m. PST

Preview of Gringo's new Greens with helmet reference for the Gendarme elite

Cracking sculpts I am sure you will agree

Mark

Artilleryman27 May 2014 6:09 a.m. PST

That is an unusual figure. Very specific. The helmet was only worn by some Gendarmes d'Elite during the 100 Days. Nice sculpts.

Chortle Fezian27 May 2014 6:37 a.m. PST

Nice. I have the Bicorne/Connoisseur figures – haven't painted them yet, to my shame!

KaweWeissiZadeh27 May 2014 6:57 a.m. PST

It's raining must have's!

Thank you for sharing these.

GeordieMike27 May 2014 7:22 a.m. PST

These look awesome and a must have!

Although I'm wondering why Deadhead hasn't commented yet???

Maybe he has passed out at the thought of finally getting Gendarmes d'Elite!!!

Your prayers have been answered Deadhead!!!

Best regards

Mike

Guy Barlow27 May 2014 7:22 a.m. PST

Excellent news. I bought your mounted Murat figure last year and it is a fab figure. I will be v interested in a decent unit of Marmalukes. I bought a few from Essex and Connoisseur years ago but didn't go ahead. What I am really after is unit along the lines of the fantastic animated converted one years ago at the WHC. Spirited horses as well please!

Marcel180927 May 2014 8:54 a.m. PST

1815 Gendarmes d'Elite, great news, hope you will also do the ones in bearskin full dress and in surtout.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2014 11:59 a.m. PST

Excellent, as usual my friend!
Congrats!

Amicalement
Armand

Deedles27 May 2014 12:23 p.m. PST

Great stuff.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2014 12:57 p.m. PST

I am dreaming……GeordieMike (Good manager you have there BTW, ex West Ham and great head butt, I rate him highly still), I know what you mean! G d'Elite of the quality we expect from these folk. Just two days ago I heard that Eureka of Oz had taken off my request from their website. I was promised, by the Perrys, they would do these. Never thought tho' that I would ever see these. Even better with the helmet, easy to swap with Guard Artillery for the bearskin bonnet, if you want. Reverse is not so easy. Brilliant…..I'll take surtout, even without the red lapels (that is too much to hope)

It is quite incredible that many manufacturers will consider "obscure" units like Mamelukes (but great to see them here) and, yet, not G d'Elite who saw far more service!

I did work for ages on the Perry Guard Dragoons to swap the side of the aigulettes (murder on the Dremel grinder to remove their version). I do have three Gd'Elite as a result. Two converted Perry plastic dragoons and one metal, in this helmet, with the horsetail AND a plume on the crest.

Odd combination that, that only came in with la Restauration and went out as quickly. See the figure in La Musee de l'Armee of the Royal Bodyguard. I made one from a Carabinier head on a Cuirassier officer body, but never happy with the result. Must photo some time!

How much do I want these……….? Big time……!

Dave Wargamer27 May 2014 1:29 p.m. PST

See Perry metals workbench.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP27 May 2014 1:41 p.m. PST

gents

thanks for all the kind comments. these two units will be
done in great depth as mentioned but with attention to detail necessary to do them justice as they are both
complicated units and merit a lot of attention .Deadhead
i have had these factored in for ages and would have loved
to tell you…………

regards
Ged
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Empires at War Sponsoring Member of TMP27 May 2014 2:01 p.m. PST

Deadhead, the Perries also have these up on their metals workbench,both helmets and bearskins.

Oh and you can have Pardew back anytime you like, he's an utter Bleeped texter.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP27 May 2014 2:27 p.m. PST

He's actually a very nice bloke, so long as you do not face up to him, that is. Met him at a New Year "do" in a posh place in Northumberland and could not fault him. Not a poor man, mind, nice contract, but if you Geordies are daft enough…swap you Big Sam any day.

Now what is this about the Perrys? How is it that I check them every second or third day and am always the last to know. Gringos and Perrys both…I am in Heaven. I know it is daft, I will end up with more G d'El than Guard Grenadiers a Chev….but it has been a long wait!

I see lead people27 May 2014 3:42 p.m. PST

Hoping that the Perry's do Mamalukes as well. I think only Alan P. could capture the classic image of Kirmann sword arm raised leading his Mamalukes into action…!

I would be surprised if the Alan Perry does not do them as a squadron made up of 2 companies total 135 men were at Waterloo under Kirmann.

cp models28 May 2014 9:46 a.m. PST

Another lovely sculpt from Gringo 40's coming soon

Claudette French Aide de Campe to the 7th Hussars 1815

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP28 May 2014 8:36 p.m. PST

CP models appreciate the postings!….
many more Napoelonics to come from Gringo40s
in 28mm.i have to say im looking forward to
the mamelukes as they are such a colourfull unit
and from the Egyptian campaign onwards were a
force to be reckoned with despite only ever
reaching squadron size!

regards
Ged
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gjmfigurines.com

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP29 May 2014 12:06 p.m. PST

I'll be honest, I kept delaying ordering. I felt I could not ask for one Murat, in a box posted across the Atlantic. Then comes the prospect of Genie du Garde in proper helmets and Marins (OK, others do them, but we can never have too many of something so colourful).

Within 24 hours we hear Gringo are doing the G d'Elite in the Restauration helmet and Perrys are to do the same. The latter told me so over a year ago, but I never believed it! I imagine the two will work together perfectly…that is my plan.

But if I was either maker, I do wonder, commercially………would I now be cursing? Why did I not listen to that crazed Deadhead a year ago? I would now be a billionaire.

What a Long Strange Trip it's Been…….!

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Jun 2014 5:37 a.m. PST

Gents

please note the Caludette Hussar figures is available direct
from me at the moment from gjmfigurines4@btinternet.com
and will be available on my site gringo40s.com
in the near future

regards
Ged
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gjmfigurines.com

summerfield18 Jun 2014 8:13 a.m. PST

I wonder if the figure would be suitable for Netherlands Heavy Cavalry and some German State (Westphalia and Wurttemberg comes to mind).

Just a thought.
Stephen

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2014 2:33 p.m. PST

Summerfield, I can only speak for the DB Heavy cavalry, indeed the "Dutch" lot. It would need much work, but might well be worth it. Perrys' figures are (wonderful, but) in a very "attack" pose". These would be different, but difficult!

You would need to;

Remove the aigulettes on the left shoulder (murder on the grinder I find) never mind the fringed epaulettes needed for DBs.

Get cuirassier horses (long story, but Gendarmes' totally wrong)

Remove the tail from the helmet plume (that was a curious Restoration…sorry, Restauration….thing)

The helmet would pose a problem…turning a fur turban into a lion crest…..

The coat could be done, with work.

No, let me show you what you could do with these folk. (Tomorrow, when sober)

The Royal Bodyguard of Louis XVIII. As seen in Waterloo, the movie, for 3-4 seconds….or in La Musee de l'Armee preserved for ever more.

Surely the smartest uniform of the era, on the worst unit that served…..or actually did not even do that!

Tomorrow…too good a night tonight.

It is 18.06.14 and the sun is shining(or was till recently) in the North East of England.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP19 Jun 2014 5:05 a.m. PST

Right. Restoration uniforms, such as the helmeted gendarme, were (arguably) some of the smartest of the era. See the exhibition in la Musee de l'Armee. There is much on line on units like the Black Musketeers (or the Grey indeed) Notably absolutely useless troops, but nicely turned out.

The curious mixture of the crested helmet and the horse tail added on appeared in several of Louis XVIII's units. Apologies for picture quality……much reflection and autofocus a bit challenging through glass with a cheapo camera.

picture

picture

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP20 Jun 2014 2:02 a.m. PST

another thought. Will the gendarme come with a separate right arm as shown? Brilliant if so. Easy for conversions. I have a half dozen sword arms in the attack pose from Perrys Russian Dragoons in overcoats, for example. (they are now carrying lances and are Poles!)

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Jun 2014 10:43 p.m. PST

Deadhead

ref the Gendarme there will be more then one pose for
sure ..will look into the separate arm issue .Still work
to do on the Officer/trumpeter ranks ..mounts etc

regards
Ged
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gjmfigurines.com

cp models25 Jun 2014 10:06 a.m. PST

Looking forward to seeing those command figures and the horses

Mark

Sidney Fiddler26 Jun 2014 3:52 a.m. PST

Blimey they look nice.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Jun 2014 12:32 p.m. PST

cp models and Sidney much appreciated!!

regards
Ged
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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 Jun 2014 10:35 a.m. PST

Actually the separate arm is not vital….and wargamers prefer simpler figures that require no assembly. All I would suggest is that the arm is only attached at the shoulder, so the saw can get to work. So often the whole right arm is moulded into the thorax and right thigh and is inseparable. A great figure can result, but no conversion potential.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Jun 2014 3:00 p.m. PST

Deadhead

see what I can do old chap!……….a most reasonable request!

regards
Ged
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gringo40s.blogspot.com

cp models04 Jul 2014 9:02 a.m. PST

Preview of Gringo 40's upcoming 28mm Napoleonic figures

Mameluke horse

Gendarmes Green for the Vizored figure
to be available along with the Clasical helmeted version mainly
used in 1815

They are looking really good so far

Mark

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP04 Jul 2014 9:17 a.m. PST

I have no idea about a Mameluke horse, but I know a decent model of a Gendarme d'Elite when I see one. Keep that right arm separate and there are endless variations with conversion potential.

The bearskin is a nice surprise. I expected "just" the Restoration helmet version. The shape is hard to capture and well done here. It is not the rounded bearskin of the Guardsman at the Trooping of the Colour (as in some attempts at these folk) it is the taller, narrower in profile, effort worn by the officers of HM's Foot Guards a few weeks ago at HG Parade. Flounders are nice…OK not for campaign but they look great!

I could end up with more G d'Elite than Cuirassiers………..I know I will.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP07 Jul 2014 3:11 a.m. PST

thanks Deadhead.appreciate the continued support
your right about the Gendarme bearskin its actually
contoured to jut slightly forward and was not a standard
issue item…………A restoration helmet was dug up
on the field of Waterloo and a far as my extensive
research goes the unit appears to have worn both forms
of headdress……..
regards
Ged

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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP07 Jul 2014 8:50 a.m. PST

Logically I am sure you are right. They could hardly have re-equipped the whole squadron in the limited time. Who cares? I would still use both in any unit for the best effect. One of the Perrys has an original helmet for this unit I gather!

Intrigued by the story that a helmet was dug up. Could that be confused with the 1st Chasseurs who certainly had a Restoration helmet, modified to remove Bourbon symbols? Too good to be true that there is a helmet from this unit with that provenance…….surely!

Keep up the great work!

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP14 Jul 2014 9:37 p.m. PST

thanks Deadhead……………the Helmet of the Ist ere line chasseurs was of a different type,thought having the
fur chinelle along the ridge….the whole regiment being
equipped with these……….aside from white epaulettes
being given to the ist line Dragoons and unworn royal
cuirass's of the Grenadiers a cheval the French cavalry
took the field much as they were in 1814//though reduced
in regiments. still fascinating though!
regards
Ged

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cp models24 Jul 2014 6:12 a.m. PST

Any news on these figures yet

Mark

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP24 Jul 2014 7:10 a.m. PST

Must say I was wondering the same thing, with great enthusiasm! We all know it will take time, but tempt us with a photo or two…………bearskins and helmets.

Indeed 1st Chasseurs was a much simpler effort and that is modelled by Perrys. Certainly one of those is recorded as retrieved from the battlefield. Never heard of a Gendarmes helmet from "Waterloo" though. Contemporary prints show them still in use 15 years later unchanged. Indeed, the uniform was little different by 1830. Shorter coat and tails, red lapels now Bardin style, some show white laced bars across the lapels, but the rest ISQ.

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Jul 2014 8:43 a.m. PST

Mark and Deadhead………….we have some serious progression and there will be some photos soon…….
please bear with me……………..all will be revealed
soon (ish!)

samples of the intial Mamelukes and Gendarmes
just sent out..for paintjobs………

best regards
Ged
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gringo40s.blogspot.com

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP24 Jul 2014 11:37 a.m. PST

"paintjobs" is good, as long as you use a brush.

If you used an airbrush to blow the paint on, it might be called a ….no let's not go there.

Really looking forward to these. Both! No one does decent mamelukes to modern standards of casting

davejl28 Jul 2014 1:43 p.m. PST

They just get better. The horses are superb and the ranges interesting. What a great set of figures to grace any wargames table. Can't wait for the completed figures and to see the painted examples.

Great work Ged davejl

cp models30 Jul 2014 1:57 a.m. PST

Painted preview of Claudette

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP01 Aug 2014 3:02 a.m. PST

Deadhead ,Dave and CP Models..many thanks indeed
working flat out on these two units!!

regards
Ged
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gjmfigurines.com

cp models03 Aug 2014 2:30 a.m. PST

Painted preview of Gringo 40's Mameluke

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2014 4:36 a.m. PST

Truly superb. The painting of the figure is great but I am taken by the overall proportions. So many sculptors produce the dumpy Hobbit figure (arguing that they are meant to be viewed from above by wargamers) or they produce those skeletal characters staring at the sky………

When, when, when?

Durando06 Aug 2014 5:01 a.m. PST

Can we see some dismounted Mamelukes please

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP06 Aug 2014 8:13 a.m. PST

Dismounted cavalry of any sort whatsoever are rarely modelled. I presume as of limited appeal to wargamers, but what a shame. Senior officers you will find, but troopers might only sell individually (at best).

Let me second your request…but I cannot wait to see more of the mounted Mamelukes…although this was a unit I thought of no interest to me whatsoever

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP06 Aug 2014 10:18 a.m. PST

Deadhead…………appreciate the positive comments
working away on this unit.bear with me…………

Shikpa…
as for dismounted cavalry..you never know!
regrds
Ged
gringo40s.com

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2014 8:56 p.m. PST

Like them very much!

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Amicalement
Armand

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP04 Nov 2014 11:39 p.m. PST

The castings, the modelling obviously brilliant. But what about that painting? The lace of the kettledrum done without using metallic paint. The leopardskin shabraque. The officer's sash. That is a series of pictures to save. These are almost unique.

Still hope to see Gendarmes one day too. I have 18 Perry figs underway, but always room for more and variety. You cannot have too many of that unit (even if they will soon outnumber my cuirassiers)

jammy four Sponsoring Member of TMP22 Jan 2015 2:41 a.m. PST

update re Mamelukes and Gendarmes de Elite

its been a while but even more Mamelukes are coming on line
this year with the addition of more Band Members and command
and a surprise or two!

The first of the Gendarme de elite troopers will be ready
soon in classical helmet and Bearskin with command for both
types.

more updated information as I receive it

regards
Ged

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