"To All The Negative Tango Commenters:" Topic

Wow, this went south quicker than I expected. All of you negative commenters, please just lighten up (notice, a polite request and not a demand.) This is a hobby forum, not the end of the world.

What Stealth1000 said.
The complaints are about WHO is posting far more than WHAT is in those posts. If they were all by different people no one would complain… so really it's just seeing Tango's name attached that's getting up their chute… meaning it's a diatribe against a single individual… petty bullying, that's all.

Carne68 : I don't understand how the Tango01 threads are bumping everyone off the front page.

Here's my Front page list of threads for May 15th :

Brigade Models – New 15mm Previews (17)
Tango01 on 15mm Sci-Fi
The Canal – Force on Force Improvement Project (2)
Black Guardian on Blogs of War
French Dismounted Dragoons
Tango01 on Plastic Figures
USMC Woodland MARPAT tutorial (2)
Nysseh on Modern Gallery
Turkish Cavalryman mounted on Arab pony with lance
Tango01 on Early 20th Century Product Reviews
The day the ground erupted (10)
Tango01 on Modern Media
War machine. (wagon) with horse legs.
Tango01 on Interwar (WWI to WWII)
A world away from Normandy, troops practice modern-day … (16)
Tango01 on Modern Discussion
Reaper news. (6)
Tango01 on Pulp Gaming
Navy to test electromagnetic catapult on carrier (5)
Tango01 on Modern Naval Discussion
Across The Dead Earth Post Apocalypse skirmish game (3)
Tango01 on Post-Apocalypse Discussion
Oldest most complete, genetically intact human skeleton … (5)
Tango01 on Prehistoric
Battle Dog and Püg (4)
Tango01 on Weird WWII
The World's Most Ignored Conflict Could Soon Become (4)
Tango01 on Modern Media
DS'tone Art – Space Game Mats Wave 2 Kickstarter (6)
Tango01 on Crowdfunding
Full system Gaming Scenery: Laser o Bundle. (4)
Tango01 on Terrain and Scenics
Modular Gladiatorial Arena in 28mm. (5)
Tango01 on Ancients Discussion
Dragonfly Mk II Gunship and Transporter.
Tango01 on SF Product Reviews
Super Battle in the Artic (3)
Tango01 on Fantasy Gallery
A Look At The Five Chinese Conventional Weapon Systems…
Tango01 on Modern Discussion
M17 Whiz-Bang (7)
Tango01 on WWII Models Review
Philippines Accuse China Of Building A Military Base…
Tango01 on Modern Media
Two new buildings for Stalingrand and a railway-track. (7)
Tango01 on WWII Discussion
Prototype: Escort Cruiser CE (3)
Tango01 on SF Gallery
1/72 Militiawomen SCW preview (11)
Tango01 on Interwar (WWI to WWII)
Another one die combat system (14)
Extra Crispy on Game Design
See Thru Concrete – Almost Like An Actual Terrain Piece (13)
Cacique Caribe on Terrain and Scenics
General Quarters 3 Rules (4)
JasonAfrika on WWII Naval Discussion
A great post apoc resource (4)
James Wright on Post-Apocalypse Discussion
..unconventionally Late Historicon report. (6)
wingnut on Pirates
Increasing the Number of Front Page Messages? (11)
Ed the Two Hour Wargames guy on Websites for Wargaming
Lord Ulthrak and Lord Yevrah from Hasslefree Miniatures
darclegion on Solo Wargamers
The grass is always greener on the other side of the…. (9)
Timotheous on Wargaming in General
Field of Glory Napoleonic PowerPoint Presentation
trailape on Australian Wargaming
Painted GZG NSL Panzergrenadiers (10)
darebear on 15mm Sci-Fi
Big Machinas cars (8)
evilcartoonist on Post-Apocalypse Discussion
Huzzah! this weekend in South Portland, Maine (5)
Wargaminginmaine on Conventions and Wargame Shows
Painted GZG 15mm Colonists (6)
darebear on 15mm Sci-Fi
Problem with Supporting Membership (7)
Ragbones on TMP Talk
My 28mm Fantasy Collection Samples (4)
darebear on 28mm Fantasy
My 40K Steel Legion Army, 240+ models (7)
darebear on 28mm Sci-Fi
Welcome to the New Post-Apocalypse Board! (27)
The Editor on TMP Talk
Games Workshop visit (11)
Sevastopol on The Industry
Game 7 of 10mm Vietnam Skirmish Campaign (24)
Just Jack on Solo Wargamers
Holy Hoverbikes! (11)
Coelacanth on SF Discussion
Grouchy chance. (4)
Tango01 on Napoleonic Discussion
My French Army … (21)
sotek486 on Blogs of War
Adler 6mm American Revolution figures in US? (7)
whitejamest on American Wargaming
Best 28 mm figures for 2d and later Crusades (8)
whitemanticore on Medieval Discussion
New North Star Marines for their pirate range. (6)
legatushedlius on Pirates
Prisoner Escort – Redcoats vs Gypsies
Marshal Mark on Victorian SF
AWI Flags in the US (10)
GROSSMAN on American Revolution
French, British, and American custom dice on Kickstarter
colkrone on American Revolution
China Building a Base in the South China Sea (16)
Mako11 on Modern What-If
Inbox: PzKpfw I Ausf. A model by First to Fight (2)
Inkub Pendragon on WWII 20mm Models Review
Sighting German AT-guns (17)
Endless Grubs on WWII Discussion
On To Richmond! Pre-Orders (13)
Extra Crispy on ACW Discussion
Any good wargame shops in Pompano Beach area? (2)
tigrifsgt on American Wargaming
Slaughterloo project: 1st update (6)
Chris Walkley on Black Powder Fantasy
3 player island based game of Song of Blades (4)
ordinarybass on Blogs of War
Is Steve Jackson Games still producing Oger miniatures? (18)
Darkrazor on 6mm Sci-Fi
X-Wing: Tantive IV and Rebel Transport ordered (5)
Only Warlock on Spaceship Gaming
Military meals. (5)
ironicon on Wargaming in General
Warhammer tourneys gone from H-con PEL (3)
whitemanticore on Conventions and Wargame Shows
WOTR Best Foot Miniatures (12)
Will M on Medieval Product Reviews
War Gamers In Huntsville, Alabama area (5)
Will M on Medieval Discussion
Africa Needs Steam Little Wars (Illinois) -27Apr14 (2)
Rich Bliss on 19th Century Gallery
Nashcon PEL is growing.. Amazing (2)
Nashville on Conventions and Wargame Shows
Operation Battleaxe at Little Wars(Illinois) 26Apr14 (4)
Rich Bliss on WWII Land Gallery
Sea People (5)
Chocolate on Ancients Gallery
Wings of Glory Screens (5)
Abwehrschlacht on Biplanes
When did EIR become LIR? (16)
chrach7 on Ancients Discussion
Perry Desert Rats in the Pacific? (5)
SSGSteveT on WWII Models Review
Interest in a Rogue Trader/Laserburn/Necromunda style game? (10)
Weasel on SF Discussion
We need a mini like this: (6)
Jeff Ewing on WWII Media
Clear Miniatures? (10)
Amalric on Superhero
Who is going to Triples this weekend? (12)
olicana on Conventions and Wargame Shows
Wargaming Videos
TomPainter on Napoleonic Gallery
Chaco War Resource Page Updated
Buckeye AKA Darryl on Blogs of War
USN PCs test firing SSMs (6)
ptdockyard on Modern What-If
The Battle for Napoleon's Jammies (2)
MadDrMark on Napoleonic Media
New 28mm Pre-painted Vehicles (3)
28mm Fanatik on WWII Discussion
Israel's solution to shoulder-launched missiles (8)
snodipous on Modern Aviation Discussion
The Last Samurai at Triples 2014
mac95th on Conventions and Wargame Shows
Puppets War Ork Warbus and War Buggies (5)
wehrmacht on SF Discussion
Sibley tents or similar in 15mm (8)
Trojan Points on Pulp Gaming
Test run at stone walls (4)
GROSSMAN on ACW Gallery
Yahoo groups: Yikes! Recommend a forum package pls (7)
Extra Crispy on Websites for Wargaming
Redoux on Campaign Map (5)
Brigadier General on Blogs of War
Random painting, LOTR, Reaper, GW (3)
Xintao on 28mm Fantasy
More 15mm Wishes for Splintered Light or Khurasan (7)
Brigadier General on 15mm Fantasy
Life Imitates Art… (5)
BlackWidowPilot on Modern Discussion
My Splintered Light or Khurasan Wish List Steam-da Vinci (5)
Brigadier General on 15mm Fantasy
Khurasan's Hobgoblin Shock Army (19)
khurasanminiatures on 15mm Fantasy
Grenadier musicians with line troops. (6)
GROSSMAN on American Revolution
WWI Naval Battle – Gulf of Finland May 1915 (2)
NCC1717 on Naval Gaming 1898-1929
All Quiet on the Quar Front – Smurf Village (8)
Trojan Points on Terrain and Scenics
good words for Early War Miniatures (4)
Le Bovin on WWII 20mm Models Review
Put Your Cards on the Table (4)
Pyrate Captain on Sharp Practice
This may be kind of a silly question, but… (21)
Texas Jack on Napoleonic Discussion
Help needed USMC EF-10 Skynight (3)
Fatman on Modern Aviation Discussion
Egyptian Chariots – Essex and Old Glory (4)
Gonsalvo on Ancients Gallery
Anyone have this Shinsengumi book? (2)
Rokurota on Classical Asian Warfare
A close-run thing. (5)
Fireymonkeyboy on 19th Century Gallery
Would you support a "Found on the Internet" board? (29)
MajorB on TMP Talk
Durruti HQ – A Spanish Tavern (9)
scrivs on Terrain and Scenics
Free 1/72s (13)
rdjackson78 on Plastic Figures
Hobart's Forgotten Funny (13)
ScottWashburn on WWII Discussion
Name this miniature! (11)
mesquite63 on 28mm Sci-Fi
Brunt Herd conversions. (12)
Gunner Dunbar on Conversions
Brilliant Service from foundry minatures (2)
Black Bob Craufurd on Consumer Affairs
Worthington launches "New York 1776" (8)
kduke42 on American Wargaming
Bad Boyz… (5)
AVAMANGO on 15mm Sci-Fi
russian light infantry (17)
serge joe on Napoleonic Discussion
The Brit's are coming…. (12)
AVAMANGO on 15mm Sci-Fi
Which Is Your Favorite AWI Unit (Crown) (20)
nevinsrip on 18th Century Discussion
Which Was Your Favorite AWI Unit (Rebels) (18)
nevinsrip on 18th Century Discussion
US 3rd Infantry Division dismantle Gustav Line – a FoW AAR (9)

Tango01 has 20ish threads out of 120. It's quite a few, but not 1 in 3.

And I can see all the threads from the 16th, and threads from 14th as well. If I really wanted to see more threads, I'd turn off some of the boards that are of little or no real interest. How far back should the front page go ? 5 Days? 10? A month ?

Two full days and some older stuff doesn't seem that unreasonable (to me).

20thMaine – Does your list of topics take into account that Tango was in the Doghouse for five days, and so maybe couldn't do his usual amount of topics? I can't recall exactly which day he came out.

Also, bear in mind that if you only have a few boards showing on your FrontPage, the number of Tango posts will obviously be a lot less. If you have quite a few boards that interest you (as I do), then the proportion of Tango posts could be more.

But I do agree that a proportion of one-in-three is probably an over-exaggeration (in most cases).

He emerged from the Dawghouse on the 14th.

Logically, if anything being Dawghoused for 5 days should have allowed him to build up a larger than usual set of interesting links to use once back on TMP….

As soon as one cuts back the total number of boards being followed the less of an issue this should be. If one see's 60 posts per day, then that's three and a half days available on the front page. If it's only 40 posts then 5 full days. I list everything, and accept a heavy turnover – even if Tango01 doesn't post that's maybe 100 new threads per day – so two days is the limit that will still be visible on the front page even under that circumstance.

I've found that most threads people will lose interest in after a couple of days.

I've found that most threads people will lose interest in after a couple of days.

If the threads develop any interest at all. There are many threads out there with less than 10 posts. And in the discussion boards that I frequently browse (Ancients, Medieval, Renaissance, ACW), the threads on the bottom of the first pages have last posts in April (March for Medieval). I'd say that the issue isn't that Tango posts too frequently, but that other people do not post frequently enough.

I follow so many boards because I am interested in so many of them. I don't feel that I should have to remove some of the boards I like because of the behaviour of one individual.

In the past, a topic lasted about five days on the frontpage (using my board settings). Now it is usually three.

This of course could also be because of other people posting more, not just Tango. But Tango by his sheer volume certainly accounts for a good portion of this.

As I said above – even if Tango01 didn't post at all, if all boards are followed two – maybe two and a bit – days are the best you'll ever get. That's just a feature of TMP.

With the 200 thread limit, five days displayed means only 40 threads per day – and we get 100+ threads per day without counting Tango01. The only way to get five days is to cut back the boards to be listed on the front page. That's just how TMP works.

Hi,

Because I have eclectic interests, I subscribe to almost all the boards.

Recently I've only been able to see about 2 days worth of posts. Sometimes 1 and a half. Before Tango it was 3 to 4.

Why is this a problem?

The issue here is that unless you bookmark those threads you have participated in, within 2 days you have no idea what threads you have participated in. Bill's software doesn't tell you, so I have to rely on the thread being highlighted.

I understand that I could just bookmark those threads, but I should not have to do that. This effects how I interact with the community. Until Bill gets TMP v4 out, and that may be some time, I'm stuck with only being able to comment once or twice before the thread is lost.

Edit Mr Editor.

JohnG

I just dig Doug Redshirt's post where he implies the Argentineans aren't by and large white… :)

Tango – go away. you add no value. This is all just ads.

please – i used to check daily..

Tango – stay, just be more selective. You do add value – usually.

Garrison Miniatures: I feel the same way. Tango finds great stuff daily. But he has made it abundantly clear he will never voluntarily be more selective.

In one of the few instances where he even bothered to answer us, he said something like, "Whatever. I like it, I post it."

That is why we now have no alternative left but to ask Bill to take action.

platypus01au :don't be lazy and bookmark your participated threads. Bill's software is what it is and TMP's popularity increasment will only have more people putting up threats. So Tango or no Tango, the "problem" will not dissapear. Adapt and don't take it out on anything else. A very good baker I get my bread from is getting so popular it is sometimes time consuming (because of the quantity of clients) to get there without to have to wait too long. I adapted and go in those hours when there is less commotion. Adapt, times change….