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Volunteer Fezian16 May 2014 4:03 a.m. PST

I just posted Rory's step by step guide to painting and rigging 1:1200 Scale Napoleonic Ships Part I on my blog if anyone is interested. It is a great guide in 4 parts. He tried to submit it as a Workbench article, but the Workbench appears to be a defunct section of TMP. It's worth a look. I will be posting parts 2-4 as I get time.

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Regards,
Vol

Soldat16 May 2014 6:28 a.m. PST

Thanks for posting this. I just got some 1:1200 ships!

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP16 May 2014 8:59 a.m. PST

This is a handy site for colour etc of 1/1200 ships:

my.erinet.com/~bp/pt_napnv.html

Centurian16 May 2014 3:49 p.m. PST

Wonderful – thx Volunteer! I gives me encouragement to paint my Langton ships.

devsdoc16 May 2014 6:27 p.m. PST

Thank you Vol for your help about the guide and your work in cleaning it up and making it look so good. This is my way of doing it. Not the best or only way. I have to say thinks to Rod Langton for the ground work. He said he liked it. That made me very happy. I hope it will help in part or whole with making the models. I'm a wargamer not a modeler, so if I can do them, so can you. Have fun.
Again, Thanks Vol, my friend.
Be safe
Rory

Charlie 1216 May 2014 6:29 p.m. PST

Nice! Thanks for that, Vol. It'll get me off my butt and painting all those SoLs I've got socked away. Looking forward to the next parts.

Volunteer Fezian17 May 2014 2:49 a.m. PST

The next parts are definately important as they cover rigging, first the standing rigging then the running rigging. There will even be a bonus post at the end where Rory explains the difference between rigging the Mizzen the British way and the way every other nation did it.

I know I can speak for Rory when I say that we both hope that his guide can be of help to anyone that wants to model and wargame the Napoleonic Naval period 1/1200 scale ships. Hopefully I will be able to get the next parts posted within the next two weeks. I am tagging them all under the "How To" label on the blog so when later successive posts bury the guide, anyone can find it by clicking on the "How To" label.

Regards,
Vol

PS to Dave Jackson
Thanks Dave for posting the link again to Ray Trochim's color guide. Unfortunately some of his information is not completely accurate. Spain and Russia are incorrect.

Spain had a well established color scheme established by Naval Ministry, the Spanish equivalent of the Admiralty board. At the time of the Napoleonic Wars the Spanish navy was still under the regulation of 1772 which established the following mandatory color schemes:

HULL :
>Black
>Yellow bands in the starting of the decks, with gun ports in black, main wale, middle wale and upper wale black
>Bulkwark yellow
>Plank sheer black
>Inside the bulkwark, from deck to plank sheer, earth red (wine color)
>Headrails, sometimes blue with gold borders, sometimes bone with gold borders

MASTS:
Bowsprit, Fore, Main, Mizzen Yellow (Sometimes the top mast, topgallant, jibboom and flying jibboom, are painted earth red, this variation will be only in the ships of the line 112, and 74 cannons.)

DECK :
Bulkheads blue (or deep blue or black) and yellow. The same for the poop bulkhead and breakhead bulkhead
Breakhead platform and cathead blue, sometimes in black.

STERN GALLERIES :
Blue with details in gold and bone, sometimes black with details in gold, the coat of arms of the ship in the poop.
Normally the basic paint was black or deep blue, only in some cases (like the Santa Ana), the stern galleries were in blue.

INSIDE :
All the ship in earth red, gunports, inside earth red, officers, captain and admmirals cabin in bone.

LAUNCH, BARGE, PINNACE AND CUTTER:
Hull black, yellow wale.
Inside, earth red, and inside the poop bone

I believe the misconceptions like Mr Trochim's come from eyewitness accounts by British officers at the battle of Trafalgar where the Santissima Trinidad was variously reported to be black with white stripes, black with red stripes, red with black stripes, and red with black stripes lined in white. Paintings reflecting these color schemes reflect the artist's interpretation of these reports. It is more likely that the Santissima had not been repainted for some time and her hull was severely weathered and faded, possibly tarred to protect the wood. The Museo Naval in Madrid has plans and contemporary models of many of the ships from the period that all reflect the established colors I have listed here.

The hulls of the high seas Russian fleet during the Napoleonic wars primarily were black with white stripes, very similar to the American ships of the time. Rory can speak better to this since this is one of his areas of research. The green and white in Mr Trochim's guide was used earlier in the century.

I have seen numerous Russian and Spanish ship models painted incorrectly for the period. However as Rory will tell you, on the gaming table, as long as you can tell one fleet from the other, it doesn't make a bit of difference what color the ships are painted. And I'll drink to that!

Volunteer Fezian17 May 2014 3:54 a.m. PST

An excellent site for Spanish ships of the period is todoababor.es/index.htm
You can use Google Translator to translate the spanish to english. There is a wealth of information here including ship lists of SOLs to unrated, colors, ship histories, paintings, etc.

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