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nnascati Supporting Member of TMP08 May 2014 6:35 a.m. PST

Brigade Games, brigadegames.com
Old Glory, oldglory25s.com
Pulp Figures, pulpfigures.com

Those are the ones I can think of, there may be one or two more.

Personal logo Jeff Ewing Supporting Member of TMP08 May 2014 6:38 a.m. PST

Off the top of my head: Pulp Figures: link , Brigade Games: link , Old Glory: link , Outpost: link , Cannonfodder/Blaze Away: link , Monday Knight Productions: link .

Edit: Dang you, nnascati!

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP08 May 2014 6:42 a.m. PST

Haha, Jeff, I'm retired, I'm on here off and on all day! Still you came up with a couple I forgot.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP08 May 2014 10:41 a.m. PST

QC,
Brigades Banana Wars Marines are in the Caribbean Empires range. Yes, the Pulp Figures are probably perfect, and Bob is a great guy to deal with.

Personal logo Jeff Ewing Supporting Member of TMP08 May 2014 11:30 a.m. PST

Outpost uses $^*#% frames, so it's hard to link to them. Their Pershing/Mexican Revolution page is: link

I'd say the Pulp Marines are a little bulkier than the Brigade, but not so much so that it looks bad.

Jeff Caruso08 May 2014 6:07 p.m. PST

Brigade and OG go together very well. Both are beautiful figure ranges. A bonus from Brigade is their Constabulary figures are perfect for additional Marines, with their sleeves rolled down. OG has the greatest variety of any of the ranges mentioned.

Jeff

Jeff Caruso09 May 2014 5:58 a.m. PST

Brigades Marines and Constabulary together:

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Personal logo chicklewis Supporting Member of TMP09 May 2014 7:25 p.m. PST

Nice work, Jeff !

Henry Martini31 May 2014 3:41 p.m. PST

…, clearly intended for skirmish gaming.'

Clearly intended to depict early 20th century troops in action, whether for skirmish or battle games, I'd say. No one fought in drilled, close order formations in this period.

What you get in some of the packs (e.g. the Federales)is a mix of firing line poses and advancing poses, where in other cases (and other ranges) they're in separate packs.

One can always segregate the two 'postures' in separate units for a more realistic effect (except the rurales pack, which only has three dismounted poses, only one of which is advancing).

The main issue with the Cowboy Wars figures is their anachronistic costume. Closer to the chronological mark are the Copplestone gangster era Texas Rangers – but there are no mounted equivalents..

Henry Martini01 Jun 2014 5:45 p.m. PST

When I say period I mean The Mexican Revolution.

Yes, OG figures are rough compared to the 'designer' brands, but I guess it's a case of swings and roundabouts.

Henry Martini02 Jun 2014 5:56 a.m. PST

If you look at the first plate in the Osprey book, you'll notice that the 1910 Federal infantryman in full dress is depicted in dark grey, whereas the uniform was actually dark blue. The same goes for the kepi illustrated in another plate in the same volume, so you can't really use that artist as a reliable guide to colours.

What I decided to go with for the Federales is: first, replace the heads on a few units with Woodbine saumur kepis; this headgear was still quite common even in 1914.

So for instance, there are two infantry battalions in kepis, one in khaki uniform and the other in white, and two battalions as cast; again, one in khaki and one in white (although the peaked caps remain khaki, as they often were even when the uniform was white).

The same applies to the cavalry. This way all the units are easily distinguishable from each other, and if you want to differentiate between Federal and state troops for the duration of a game, you can nominate the kepi wearers as the state troops. I have no idea whether this is authentic, but it seems reasonable that Federal troops would have been given priority when it came to the issuing of new items of uniform and kit.

I have some Foundry Old West Mexican regulars armed with single-shot breechloaders that look very much like Springfields. In revolution era terms these can play the role of national guard troops in out-dated uniforms with obsolete weapons. Whilst it was the Remington that armed Mexican forces prior to the issuing of the Mauser, there were many makes of rifle in use during the revolution, and I don't think it's out of the question that some second-line government units could have obtained cheap and easily accessible US army cast-offs.

The pattern of uniform on these figures is similar to the single-breasted tropical whites that preceded the 1913 khaki outfit of the Old Glory figures. If you want to distinguish between units you could paint one in dark blue tunics; even though dark blue full dress single-breasted tunics hadn't been issued to Federal other ranks since the previous century, I think the style could conceivably still have been in use with such militia regiments.

As you might have gathered, although there's some reasonably solid information available in English about first-line Federal units, the costume of state troops and other second-line formations is more difficult to pin down.

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