| whitejamest | 06 May 2014 5:40 p.m. PST |
Here is an example of a rig you don't see every day – or at least I don't. This is a 20 gun ketch from Langton miniatures, the first I've done of this type of craft. They were gradually superseded by brigs, though continued to be used as bomb vessels. This one however will likely be seeing some coastal privateering action. More pictures here if you're interested:
link Thanks!
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| Coelacanth | 06 May 2014 6:04 p.m. PST |
A handsome little ship! Thanks. Ron |
| Intrepide | 06 May 2014 6:47 p.m. PST |
Very rich. A little gem, and the base really sets it all off. |
| 11th ACR | 06 May 2014 11:49 p.m. PST |
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| ModelJShip | 07 May 2014 3:43 a.m. PST |
Very nice model ship, What material do you use to make the strings? Thanks… |
| ArkieGamer | 07 May 2014 4:12 a.m. PST |
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Volunteer  | 07 May 2014 8:13 a.m. PST |
Another beautiful model James. Can you get any better? I hope not or I'll never catch up! |
| whitejamest | 07 May 2014 2:52 p.m. PST |
Thanks very much guys, I'm glad you like it. ModelJShip, the rigging for this one is entirely nylon paintbrush bristles. They're a little fiddly to work with, and for a larger model I would probably use nylon thread for the standing rigging to give the model some strength, but for these tiny ships the bristles are more convenient. You don't need to tie any knots or put any tension on the masts. |
| Nightmoss | 07 May 2014 8:54 p.m. PST |
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| boudin noir | 12 May 2014 2:02 a.m. PST |
Viewing the ship in scale, the shrouds would appear 'black' rather than buff -unless you were standing on the deck right next to them. Look at 18th & 19th Century paintings of sailing ships; or better still, photographs of modern sailing ships. |
| whitejamest | 12 May 2014 5:29 a.m. PST |
Hi Boudin Noir. Thanks for the tip – but the shrouds here are indeed painted black.
– James |
| boudin noir | 12 May 2014 8:27 a.m. PST |
…okay…and rigging; or any rope aloft. |
| devsdoc | 12 May 2014 2:53 p.m. PST |
Hi James,
I do love your Ketch. You make them look so good. I like your paint job. I must say I have done 4 of the little things but Brigs. I did use thread on them. Drilling the holes was hardest bit. It helps that they only have 2 masts. I would post them, but I find it so hard to post photo's on this site. Sorry my I.T. skills are so poor. I would send some to you if you e-mail me. devsdoc at hotmail dot com Mine are not so well painted. Hi boudin noir,
You must understand that all standing rigging was tared so black. All running rigging was not tared, so natural and lighter as James shows. This cannot be seen on most painting as it is too light and fine. The lighter color for the running is O.K. for me. I have seen all black rigging on 1-1200 scale model ships, it looks like crazy-string has been spray over it. Sorry! I hope James keeps doing it his way.
Be safe
Rory |
| whitejamest | 12 May 2014 7:15 p.m. PST |
Thanks very much for the kind words Rory, I'd love to see the brigs. I'll send you an email. Boudin Noir, I think you're probably right about the color the rigging would appear at scale distances. That's especially true when you see it silhouetted against a bright blue sky. For my part, I like the look of lots of rigging on the model and the buff color shows up a lot better at a moderate distance. I wouldn't want the rigging effect to be invisible on the table. So I guess I cheat a little for the visuals. |
| boudin noir | 13 May 2014 4:51 a.m. PST |
If you apply the three foot rule (i.e. the model on the games table is roughly three feet away from your eyes). And the scale is 1" = 100', then the ship is being viewed at a distance of 1200 yards; and in real life I doubt the rigging would appear buff. But, I wonder, does the rigging on the model still appear to have its buff colour at three feet? Anyway, as Rory says: it's a question of modelling art over life; and it is a lovely model. |
| devsdoc | 13 May 2014 7:11 a.m. PST |
Hi! boudin noir,
I just love seeing rigged ships. So If you wish to do all black I would not say it is wrong. If you wish to be picky all of our ships rat-lines are out of scale. On the model on the table a rigged ship just looks so cool. I wish you well with your ships All black or not and would love to see them. The rigging does made the model stronger as in life. I know if we all got the same ship with the same colours, they would all be different. That is life, and art. Hope we are still friends!
Be safe
Rory |
hindsTMP  | 10 Jun 2014 8:36 a.m. PST |
Hi Boudin Noir, You make some good points. When looking at the (non-close-up) image below, I am trying to decide if I can see any difference between standing and running rigging. Perhaps… How much of this is due to color and how much to thickness I do not know. Your comment also reminded me of the fact that, in most images, including contemporary age-of-sail ones, the foot ropes on the ratlines are practically invisible, in contrast to the way we normally model them. BTW, looking at the image, I always wonder why they don't ballast the Constitution more prototypically.
Mark |
