Tango01  | 26 Apr 2014 8:35 p.m. PST |
"Reinforce Wellington's armies with these new arrivals from the Royal Horse Artillery – a 6 pounder and a mighty 9 pounder cannon."
From here
link Hope you enjoy!. Amicalement
Armand |
 deadhead | 26 Apr 2014 11:00 p.m. PST |
Are those crests right? Otherwise very welcome although I imagine many would have preferred them in plastic |
| Sparta | 27 Apr 2014 4:45 a.m. PST |
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| summerfield | 27 Apr 2014 1:39 p.m. PST |
Well that is a 6-pdr as it does not have dolphins.
Stephen |
| deadhead | 27 Apr 2014 2:48 p.m. PST |
They put dolphins on their 9pdr as you'll see on the link to their website. Now, as the expert, please tell us; dolphins may look good on gun barrels, but the textbooks seem to suggest they were becoming obsolete by Mid Napoleonic Wars…..so how come the later 9pdr does have them and the earlier 6 pdr does not? Or am I totally wrong about this? |
| Lord Hill | 28 Apr 2014 7:39 a.m. PST |
They look nice and I would be tempted but £12.00 GBP? When Perry's are £9.00 GBP? Even my bad maths can work out I get 4 Perry sets for 3 Warlord.
Sorry, but I'm too much of a skinflint! |
| summerfield | 28 Apr 2014 9:32 a.m. PST |
Dear Liam
Why do you say that Dolphins were obsolete? Dolphins are found on bronze guns and nor iron and the the later steel guns. They were to ease in the moving and remounting of the piece. The Blomefield light 6-pdr was only 5 foot long and was caste light at 120:1 The 9-pdr with Dolphins present was used up to 1860 when they were replaced by rifled pieces. The French AnXI 6-pdr and 12-pdr had dolphins.
Stephen |
| daubere | 28 Apr 2014 9:53 a.m. PST |
It does have dolphins, they're not clearly visible in that picture. Here's another, from the other side.
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| Tango01 | 28 Apr 2014 9:55 a.m. PST |
Glad you enjoyed them boys. Amicalement
Armand |
| deadhead | 28 Apr 2014 10:07 a.m. PST |
Daubere, that is the 9pdr. It does have dolphins, the 6pdr (top picture) does not |
| daubere | 28 Apr 2014 10:15 a.m. PST |
Then what are we arguing about? The 9pdr had dolphins, the 6pdr didn't. |
| deadhead | 28 Apr 2014 11:34 a.m. PST |
Exactly right…and yet……..that puzzles me as the 9Pdr came later. Dawson, Dawson and Summerfield S(seems familiar???) in Napoleonic Artillery (p103) describe Desaguliers' system "to reduce weight and simplify construction most extraneous decoration was removed, only the 12pdr having dolphins". Now I would not know a Desaguliers's from a Blomefield but my other source on British artillery shows very few barrels with dolphins. CE Franklin p30 "Some pieces, including some of the 5.5 inch howitzers and the medium 12 pr guns, were fitted with handles at the point of balance-these were called dolphins………." suggesting these were the exception. The barrels look better with dolphins. I love dolphins. But how common were they on Napoleonic British artillery, howitzer or cannon 199 years ago? These do seem a bit overpriced and I am still not convinced by the helmet crest. |
| summerfield | 28 Apr 2014 1:10 p.m. PST |
Dear Liam
Desaguliers was designing in the late 1770s to create more mobile artillery. He designed the block trail, not Congreve Senior. Blomefield produced two different series of guns. One was light construction as used in the Light 6-pdr, Light 12-pdr and Light 5.5in Howitzer without dolphins. Then there was the Heavy 9-pdr, Heavy 12-pdr and Heavy 5.5in Howitzer. The 9-pdr was created in 1805 probably as a result of the removal of 9-pdrs from the Royal Naval upper decks. The Board of Ordnance had huge stocks of ammunition and no other country used this calibre. What better to sell it to the Army to use. Stephen |
