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Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2014 2:09 p.m. PST

Not sure of the correct name. I need a good picture of the caps worn by Anarchist troops in Spanish Civil War. They were red and black. I can find small pics, of gaming figures, or from movies, but not a large enough example to paint my own figures.

Does anyone have a large picture of one of these? Showing front and sides? Thanks much

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2014 2:16 p.m. PST

Bob, Do you mean the Isabelino Cap?

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2014 2:47 p.m. PST

I mean the hat on woman in the center Doing Google search on Isabelino Cap I find lots of examples of the correct shape, but not color. Thanks for the correct name, for SCW. No tassle.

picture

Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP23 Apr 2014 3:08 p.m. PST

Anything like this?

Lluís

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2014 3:08 p.m. PST

Bob, I think that is just an Anarchist color variant.

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP23 Apr 2014 6:23 p.m. PST

Yes, that's it.

I think, Nick, it is an anarchist variant , that's what I'm looking for.

Lluis, do you have a side view.

Thanks

Valerik23 Apr 2014 9:13 p.m. PST

anarchist uniformity is so vital.

The SC State Hat Museum approves these lids.


BGR, Curator SCStHM

Gaz004523 Apr 2014 10:50 p.m. PST

The cap is coloured in 'quarters' red over black and black over red-diagonally front to back- imagine the anarchist banner for the side on view……

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Personal logo Lluis of Minairons Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Apr 2014 12:00 a.m. PST

That is :)

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP24 Apr 2014 2:53 p.m. PST

Thanks to all. I am making up a unit of women NCL (National Confederation of Labour}/British Anarchist Federation (BAI) for VBCW

NCL/BAF

Valerik, I did not know that. All of my figures are in different clothing, not really uniform, will that be al right?

Valerik24 Apr 2014 6:08 p.m. PST

Bobgnar … All of my figures are in different clothing, not really uniform, will that be all right?

Do you have a choice in this Bobgnar?
I think not.
You did say they ARE women right?
I've known fisticuffs to ensue when two gals wear the same shoes, much less an entire outfit!

Nope, no matter how unauthentic or anti-anarchic your ladies lack of uniformity might be, I think you'll need to grit your teeth & live with the result, Sergeant Major's disapproving eye notwithstanding.

Those nifty forage caps should tie them together nicely.
And the flag. Can't really rally your anarchists without giving them all something to follow right?

I've always been surprised just how much organization, discipline, & structure a proper anarchist regiment demands. I eagerly await pictures of these lovely ladies, out of uniform though they be.

Please don't let the lace liars & button counters spoil any of the fun provided by your admittedly diverse distaff anarchist unit.

BGR

Personal logo Bobgnar Supporting Member of TMP25 Apr 2014 12:34 p.m. PST

I was looking for something else, and lo and behold, I found just what I needed

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spontoon26 Apr 2014 10:32 a.m. PST

Cool!

Makhno191820 Nov 2018 4:57 a.m. PST

Re: the British anarchist federation, i realize im 4 years late to the party but are there any sources on their participation in the scw? Im no expert but what I've read indicates the federation formed later, and at the time anarchist orgs in Britian had socialist-sounding names because they were recent split-offs of socialist groups. Anyone have more or better info? Im wondering because id love to use the beautiful but mysterious black and red Batalon Britania flag I got from minairons, but have only read about units of that name fighting with the International Brigades.

Gerard Leman20 Nov 2018 2:54 p.m. PST

Makhno, I don't have reliable information about the Brit. Anarchist Federation, however, the Anarchists were effectively squashed in Spain in May of 1937. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/May_Days
After that, the Republican government became increasingly centralized (and pro-Moscow in its orientation). I would guess that many British anarchists became disillusioned with the Republican cause after those events. Those that didn't would likely have funneled their assistance through normal channels to the British International brigades and similar.

Mike O23 Nov 2018 5:10 a.m. PST

Re: the British anarchist federation, i realize im 4 years late to the party but are there any sources on their participation in the scw? Im no expert but what I've read indicates the federation formed later, and at the time anarchist orgs in Britian had socialist-sounding names because they were recent split-offs of socialist groups. Anyone have more or better info? Im wondering because id love to use the beautiful but mysterious black and red Batalon Britania flag I got from minairons, but have only read about units of that name fighting with the International Brigades.

This discussion on the Benno figure forum should be of interest:

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Bottom line is, there was only "British Battalion" in Spain and that was part of the 15th International Brigade under Communist Party control.

Anarchism just didn't have the mass base in Britain that it had in places like Spain and Italy although there has long been a community in Whitechapel, east London, centred around the Freedom Press bookshop/printworks that has been going since 1886.

link

Makhno191823 Nov 2018 5:45 p.m. PST

Yes I've been trying for over a month to join benno's mostly to reply to that thread. I gave up and revived this one instead. @ Durruti I'd love to check out some of the anarchists you may have assembled and painted, im just starting out in the hobby and looking for inspiration, if you're willing to share your work. Same goes for the rest of ya! I started a thread in "figure finder" category this summer about anarchist uprisings if folks want a more relevant place to post them. I hope to share my first models there in a month or so! Thanks as always for the info and replies. Lastly, on the subject of U.K. anarchists and the Spanish Civil War, anyone ever check out Stuart christy's amazing film archive? I'll dig up a link if there's interest.

Mike O27 Nov 2018 3:13 p.m. PST

,,,Lastly, on the subject of U.K. anarchists and the Spanish Civil War, anyone ever check out Stuart christy's amazing film archive? I'll dig up a link if there's interest.

Yep, lots of interesting stuff on the SCW for gaming reference. First managed to find Vicente Aranda's works: "Libertarias" -1996 and TV series "Los Jinetes del Alba" (Riders of the Dawn) -1990 on there years ago.

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All the best and take care.

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