| Fried Flintstone | 02 Apr 2014 3:54 p.m. PST |
Who are they kidding. Nearly twice the price of Perry metals ! |
| Ashokmarine | 02 Apr 2014 5:19 p.m. PST |
Not sure what site you are looking at but they to be around $2.25 USD per fig which I think is reasonable. |
| Nic Robson | 02 Apr 2014 6:21 p.m. PST |
Metal Perry seem to be AUD$3.33 here through War and Peace Games. Our price is AUD$3.25, both include tax, so I conclude we are near enough the same price. Nic Eureka Miniatures |
| Sparker | 02 Apr 2014 6:24 p.m. PST |
You get what you pay for – in this case the finest sculpted figures on the market! |
combatpainter  | 02 Apr 2014 6:34 p.m. PST |
Never thought they were overpriced. |
| John the OFM | 02 Apr 2014 6:35 p.m. PST |
Twice the price? Where do you get that? Full disclosure: I feel compelled to defend Eureka's AWI figures since I am responsible for the "100 Club" project that launched them. I have always found them to be comparable in price with Perry. Are you talking about plastics? That's apples and watermelons. |
| Gallowglass | 02 Apr 2014 7:14 p.m. PST |
Twice the price? Where do you get that? As the OP is in the UK, probably from the Fighting Fifteens website: link A single 28mm AWI figure seems to be working out at £2.05 GBP on that site, and a pack of six Perry infantry miniatures retails at £7.00 GBP, call it £1.17 GBP per figure so…..well, let's just say that the OP's not exactly wrong in terms of the UK pricing. |
| Fighting 15s | 02 Apr 2014 11:20 p.m. PST |
Fighting 15s tries to keep UK ex-tax prices of Eureka figures broadly at parity with the ex-tax prices of Eureka Miniatures in Australia. With the actual exchange rate being worse than the median exchange rate used by currency converters, this is currently the case. At the exchange rate realized on recent shipments, the UK ex-tax price of GBP1.71 has proved broadly equivalent to Eureka's ex-tax price of AUD2.95 for 28mm foot figures. It varies day to day, and when the exchange rate shifts enough the prices are adjusted. The OP is comparing the price of a UK domestically produced figure with the price of a figure imported from Australia with a base price that is already more than that of the UK-produced figure. The price has to be what it is. |
| Tiberius | 02 Apr 2014 11:26 p.m. PST |
Teppsta, Please do not blame Eureka Miniatures for the exchange rate which is beyond Eureka's control. The Australian Dollar has been at historical highs against the US dollar and other currencies for the last few years. Our own reserve bank cannot lower the $A for long periods of time, it keeps climbing back up. Australian manufacturing is finding it a killer with large manufacturers pulling to plug unable to compete with the high exchange rate. Eureka Miniatures are beautiful figures, if you want them buy them, if you don't then buy something else. Since we have historically had low exchange rates, English and American miniatures were historically pricey over here. It has always come down to a matter of choice. In service alone Eureka will stand out. Add quality and there is nothing to complain about. |
| baxterj | 03 Apr 2014 2:09 a.m. PST |
Others have defended Eureka, but on the flip side, does anyone really think that the Perrys price their figures to market and to account for their time/skill properly? If they relied on Perry Miniatures for their livelihood, I can't imagine that their prices would be at the same level. There are many other UK manufacturers selling four figures for the same price as Perry's six. |
| Supercilius Maximus | 03 Apr 2014 2:19 a.m. PST |
Three things to bear in mind:- 1) In contrast to their quality (and customer service), Perry are very much at the lower end of the price spectrum for 28mm figures in the UK. A comparison between Eureka and some of the higher priced UK ranges (not all of whom could match Eureka in quality and customer service) would not produce such a stark difference, if any at all. 2) Tiberius is right, it is all about the exchange rate – go back 4-5 years and Eureka were a bonanza for good deals for UK customers. 3) We don't have to buy toy soldiers; Nic and Ian on the other hand, do have to sell them (unless they've found a way of turning base metal into food). I imagine they curse anything that puts people off buying their stuff, so let's save our powder for the real enemy here. |
| Timmo uk | 03 Apr 2014 2:41 a.m. PST |
The above posts have covered this well but I'll add that the casting quality from both Eureka and F15's on their AB figures is exceptional. I presume this remains the case with the 28mm models. I've had figures where I have struggled to find even hint of a mould line that's needed cleaning up. Perry creativity and sculpting is superb but sadly their production/casting quality leaves something to be desired and the castings often need significant cleaning up. Arguably this has some bearing on the price they can offer their models at. I have had exceptional customer service from all three companies. |
| Fighting 15s | 03 Apr 2014 6:24 a.m. PST |
To illustrate how the exchange rate has affected prices, back in 2006 Fighting 15s felt able to charge GBP1.35 for a 28mm figure. That was pre-VAT registration, and at a time when the exchange rate was very favourable. Price changes since then have been driven by the exchange rate and, thanks to the level of business, by the need to register for and hence charge VAT. Prices are currently coming down. There have been two prices decreases in the past 12 months, again purely as a result of the exchange rate. Plans for another decrease are currently on hold because the exchange rate has reversed slightly in the past month, but if the general trend continues I expect another decrease to happen this year. I can't do much about the increase caused by VAT. Fighting 15s broke the threshold for exemption back in 2007 and with sales being what they are there is no turning back. |
| Ron W DuBray | 03 Apr 2014 10:38 a.m. PST |
and what do perry minis cost in Australia?? shipping half way around the world cost big money. |
| Royston Papworth | 10 Apr 2014 4:45 a.m. PST |
This is a very enlightening thread. Like the OP, I am UK based and have always thought of Eureka as "way overpriced". So, I've looked at other manufacturers and we get… £1.17 GBP gets you a Perry Sudan figure £1.35 GBP gets you a North Star Matabele figure £2.05 GBP gets you an Eureka Dutch WAS infantryman £1.87 GBP gets you an Empress Zulu figure £1.75 GBP gets you an Empress Pathan figure £1.20 GBP gets you a Fife and Drum British figure So, Eureka are still the most expensive, but I think the really interesting things this shows are that (a) The F&D figures are really cheap and (b) Empress are too expensive. At least as this thread says, Eureka have a justification for the cost (exchange rates etc), but Empress don't seem to… By the way Nic, if you really do want to resolve this, you could always move to GB and reduce the prices to the same as Perrys and we will all love you forever (in a manly wargames way that is)… |
