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khurasanminiatures Inactive Member02 Apr 2014 6:29 a.m. PST

Our 18mm Napoleonic era line has started small, with French ligne 1807-13,

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… but we plan over time to release many more models, including some for wars peripheral to the Revolutionary and Napoleonic Wars. (Many more troops for the French Empire period are coming soon as well.)

For instance East India Company sepoys have already been made, as have some pirates!

Here's a peek at codes for a fascinating conflict during the Revolutionary period: the Irish Rebellion of 1798. This has been called by some historians the greatest outbreak of sustained violence in Irish history.

Irish pikemen (a variant set with hooked pikes will be made as well):

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Irish with various firearms:

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Irish command (a note on the priest below):

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And to fight them, Irish militia:

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More will be made, including British regulars in the pre-1796 uniform (which we will need for India as well, because the old uniform continued to be worn there until at least the Battle of Assaye).

A note on the priest: this has been made for use with catholic units, including such movements as the Defenders, not to suggest the rebellion was a "Papist conspiracy," as was often asserted after the rebellion was put down. In fact many of the United Irishmen were Protestant and the uprising was more Republican, in the spirit of the American and French Revolutions, than a Catholic uprising.

These are a ways off but we hope to have them out by summer….

Personal logo MrHarold Sponsoring Member of TMP02 Apr 2014 7:10 a.m. PST

Great looking miniatures!

carne6802 Apr 2014 7:11 a.m. PST

…the pikes must be together by the rising of the moon.

Beautiful figs.

Oh Bugger02 Apr 2014 7:33 a.m. PST

'Where have you come from with your long barrell'd gun.'

They are the business they look excellent.

I'll certainly be getting quite a few of them.

SJDonovan02 Apr 2014 8:11 a.m. PST

Those are some of the best-looking miniatures I've seen in years. Lots of character without being caricatures. Wonderful stuff.

Porthos02 Apr 2014 8:16 a.m. PST

For those who already want to learn something more about this event, including the mood of the various people: take Thomas Flanagan: The Year of the French (A novel! But great reading!)with you on holidays. After reading you will definitely want to order at least twice as much figures as you intended ;-))).
Wikipedia: link

Light Horseman Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2014 8:33 a.m. PST

Very nice…but I'm really hoping for more 18mm WSS figures!

vtsaogames02 Apr 2014 10:03 a.m. PST

General Humbert led the French intervention force. He ended up in New Orleans and was given command of some militia during the 1815 dust-up.

Yes, do read "Year of the French", a grand historical novel and some lovely writing.

Timmo uk02 Apr 2014 10:36 a.m. PST

I reckon I could use these for Spanish and Portuguese irregulars. Nice!

Personal logo War Panda Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2014 11:08 a.m. PST

Yes great minis thanks for bringing them to my attention

brunet Inactive Member02 Apr 2014 11:46 a.m. PST

The british pre 1796 uniform was also still worn (afaik and seen paintings/pictures etc of it) for the landings in Holland 1799.

PS, you woudn't make these in 28mm?

Recovered 1AO Inactive Member02 Apr 2014 3:09 p.m. PST

Thank God, you finally made figures for a period I have no interest in and even less knowledge about, wink, which will help the budget immensely.

That said, those are really nice sculpts and should sell well.

Well done.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2014 3:22 p.m. PST

Why is it that only in 18/15 mm scale can one produce anatomically correct figures like this?

I cannot accept the excuse that 28mm figures must all look like hobbits, as they would be too fragile otherwise (and I will not quote a very recent post here). We have Alban that nearly got there, but are too thin. Perry are generally good (brilliant), unless we look at the cavalry of the Imperial Guard when the old LOTR trend re-emerges and then the variations in "scale" even in newer releases. Try putting their Prussian artillery against the French Guard gunners. Calpe are superb but the range is limited. Westfalia are probably the best anatomically, but very limited as yet.

Why did I not start out in the smaller scale?

BTW. Irish Command. An oxymoron. Only a Waterford man, like me, could get away with saying that without being accused of racial prejudice or stereotyping. We do not "do" command….Charge!

FusilierDan Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2014 5:30 p.m. PST

I've been researching this period since '98, 1998 but couldn't find figures I would commit to. You are weakening my resolve. Very nice looking figures. It's good they're not due out until summer so I sould have time to knock a little off the current lead pile.

Rules ideas anyone?

Personal logo piper909 Supporting Member of TMP02 Apr 2014 10:58 p.m. PST

Really nice figures! I love seeing the last gasp of the pike, even though one pities the poor rebels lumbered with these historically.

Supercilius Maximus03 Apr 2014 2:58 a.m. PST

Against "wobbly" troops (as the Militia often were) they were not that much of a handicap.

A propos the priest/monk: I notice he has been depicted in robes I'm open to correction, but I'm fairly sure that this would NOT be the dress of an 18thC Catholic clergyman in public. In most of Europe up to the late 1800s, there was no prescribed "uniform" for junior clergy (ie parish priests bishops and cardinals were another matter, but they were pro-government/anti-republican in '98) and vestments were considered sacred, so would not have been worn for non-religious events. In day-to-day dress, a parish priest would look like nothing more than a reasonably well-off local gentleman or tradesman, albeit most likely in black with a white "roller" where the dog collar would be today. Your officer figures with perhaps a smarter looking hat would do quite nicely.

For a good book on the military campaigns, Pakenham's "Year of Liberty" is still very sound, despite occasionally showing its age.

von Winterfeldt03 Apr 2014 4:36 a.m. PST

very nice sculpting, looking excellent, I would only wish that the talented sculptor would pay a little bit more attention to the loading and firing poses.

Hopefully also French units like Legion rouge and Legion noire are produced as well.

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Oh Bugger04 Apr 2014 6:15 a.m. PST

"A propos the priest/monk: I notice he has been depicted in robes I'm open to correction, but I'm fairly sure that this would NOT be the dress of an 18thC Catholic clergyman in public. In most of Europe up to the late 1800s, there was no prescribed "uniform" for junior clergy (ie parish priests bishops and cardinals were another matter, but they were pro-government/anti-republican in '98) and vestments were considered sacred, so would not have been worn for non-religious events."

True enough but Fr Murphy, who seems to have towed the Bishop's line, had a change of heart when the Yeomanry burned down his Chapel. Perhaps he thought he was doing God's work and dressed accordingly when he joined the rising?

The officer above with the sword and plumed hat will make a fine Joseph Holt.

Jemima Fawr Inactive Member04 Apr 2014 11:12 a.m. PST

Lovely stuff! Go on… be the first company to produce armed Welsh 'ladies' in any scale… You know it makes sense! ;)

Musketier Supporting Member of TMP05 Apr 2014 8:04 a.m. PST

A propos the priest/monk

You said it: He actually appears to be a Friar wearing the habit of his order, rather than a priest. Liturgic vestments would certainly look very different .

Captain Lumo Inactive Member21 Apr 2014 3:39 a.m. PST

Great looking figure. You may wish to look at the Brown Bess musket sling. It went to almost the muzzle of the weapon, below the ram rod. They also seem to have barrel bands as well. Sorry this is a bit picky.

Personal logo Buckeye AKA Darryl Supporting Member of TMP16 Jun 2015 8:04 a.m. PST

Any word on when this may be released? I realize that KM has been banned from TMP, but others may be in the know.

Siege Works Studios20 Jun 2015 3:15 a.m. PST

Wonderful work Khurasan, very nice figs!

sjwalker38 Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2017 5:08 a.m. PST

Pity these were never released – looks like I'll end up doing the project in 28mm instead.

HANS GRUBER11 Apr 2017 5:43 a.m. PST

Agree. That could have been a fine looking range of figures. Too bad it was never released.

evilgong Supporting Member of TMP11 Apr 2017 5:28 p.m. PST

The French brought over and distributed uniforms with Humbert so perhaps some men could have a regular-looking jacket.

There's an interesting what-if scenario with the earlier ('94? '96?) attempted French landing in support of the Irish, IIRC they had 15,000 men ready to land but were foiled by storms.

There is extensive literature on the period and one thought was the revolutionary French wanted to help the Irish as a distraction or 2nd front to an invasion of England.

Regards

David F Brown

Henry Martini11 Apr 2017 6:10 p.m. PST

Does anyone know what's happening with the Khurasan website?
I want to look at some of their products but I'm unable to access it.

Supercilius Maximus12 Apr 2017 12:05 a.m. PST

He sometimes takes it down when he's away on holiday or other business.

von Winterfeldt12 Apr 2017 4:46 a.m. PST
Henry Martini12 Apr 2017 4:29 p.m. PST

Safari still can't open the page… and I have tried other browsers with the same result.

von Winterfeldt12 Apr 2017 10:58 p.m. PST

I use Mozilla – works perfectly

Wealdmaster21 Apr 2017 8:15 a.m. PST

Brilliant, awaiting those British in the pre 96' uniform. Those are hard to find figures in any scale and I'm sure you'll sell boatloads if you produce them.

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