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Mako1126 Mar 2014 8:17 p.m. PST

I ran across the Troops, Weapons, and Tactics platoon level rules, also by Two Fat Lardies, while perusing their website:

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I'd like to know how it compares to, and differs from, their Chain of Command rules?

From the site listing, the following overview is provided.

"Troops, Weapons & Tactics are no walk in the park, they are a gritty representation of WWII combat that really make you think like a WWII commander. Mistakes cost you dear, but good tactics pay huge dividends. This is gaming for big boys."

"Troops, Weapons & Tactics has been designed to be a further step in examining the WWII battlefield, with rules that seek to truly replicate the tactics of the conflict whilst being fun to play".

I haven't seen them mentioned here on TMP.

Fatman27 Mar 2014 3:03 a.m. PST

TW&T are more closely related to IABSM. They feature card activation and big men but at platoon level.

Fatman

Thomas Nissvik27 Mar 2014 4:05 a.m. PST

Important difference is that TW&T are card activation as Fatman says, while CoC uses a dice activation mechanic. I also suspect that CoC will give a much faster game and will be easier to learn and teach, especially if you play it at a game club night.

MajorB27 Mar 2014 4:30 a.m. PST

Just be careful with the acronyms …

Mako1127 Mar 2014 8:51 a.m. PST

Ah, I see.

I thought CoC was also platoon level, and IABSM were company level rules.

Thanks for the info.

BrianW27 Mar 2014 9:00 a.m. PST

Mako,
CoC is also platoon level. TWT is an older set of rules, derived from the IABSM engine, whereas CoC is all new with the dice activation.
BWW

blankfrank27 Mar 2014 10:49 a.m. PST

Like folks have said TW&T is a sort of IABSM with a lot more detail for the platoon game. As well as card activation the leaders get activation points to use which makes the game a little involved. I may go back to playing the game but as CoC is so wonderful and does everything so effortlessly…..

Fatman27 Mar 2014 12:42 p.m. PST

Mako sorry if my answer caused confusion. Yes both TW&T and CoC are platoon level TW&T is just more in line with older Lardie Sets. CoC was a total change of style for Richard using dice rather than cards and a totally different unit activation style. I prefer the older style rules but that's just me. I have to say that CoC seems to be one of the most popular Lardie sets yet, both with the faithful and with newcomers.

Fatman

Mako1127 Mar 2014 2:48 p.m. PST

Thanks for all the info, and clarifications.

I really appreciate them.

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