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Widowson20 Mar 2014 5:21 p.m. PST

I was able to find Marc Conrad's site for his Viskovatov translation, but found no link to the illustrations. Does anyone have that?

Thanks.

Oliver Schmidt Supporting Member of TMP20 Mar 2014 10:23 p.m. PST
Marcus Maximus20 Mar 2014 11:04 p.m. PST

I have seen that site in English somewhere…..will have a look where I saved it!

Widowson21 Mar 2014 10:25 a.m. PST

Just google Viskovatov or Mark Conrad. It will come up.

DHautpol08 Aug 2020 4:57 a.m. PST

My apologies for resurrecting an old thread.

I have been searching a question regarding the 1797 pattern flags and have been unsuccessful; I may just have been looking in the wrong places.

The question focuses on the white "Colonel's" flags, although I believe a few "Regimental" flags are included.

The White flags have a white Maltese cross with the cartouche in the centre and coloured corners. Some of these corners are a single colour and, therefore, present no problem. My problem is with those where the corners are of two colours.

Typically, illustrations will show the obverse of the flag (i.e. flagstaff to the left) and the arrangement of the colours gets described, using the Tula Musketeers as an example, as "White cross, red/light blue corners colours given in a clockwise order" (Terence Wise's "Flags of the Napoleonic Wars (2)").

My question is was the reverse of the flag a mirror image of the obverse and the description above now becomes "White cross, red/light blue corners colours given in an anti-clockwise order", or did the above description apply to the reverse as well, such that both sides would appear identical if laid side by side?

I've saved the link supplied by Oliver Schmidt (many thanks) but the illustrations show only the obverses, so it is difficult to be sure about the reverses without further evidence.

Many suppliers of wargames flags show their very attractive offerings as identical obverse and reverse but I have, some time ago, seen at least one offering where the "mirror-image" approach is used.

To me the mirror image approach seems more logical and that the descriptions applied to the obverses only and not to both sides.

Any comments or pointers in the the right direction would be greatly appreciated.

von Winterfeldt08 Aug 2020 8:26 a.m. PST

try this forum it has some of the best experts for the Russian Army

link

Prince of Essling08 Aug 2020 2:26 p.m. PST

For the Narva Regiment 1810 (orange & blue cross illustrations in row 18 of the flags), there is certainly a mirror image (real flag) link

Similarly for the Chernigov Regiment 1814 (row 44) link

Personal logo SHaT1984 Supporting Member of TMP08 Aug 2020 3:03 p.m. PST

ALso linked somewhere in the 'Starting a Russian…' Topic I just updated for resources access. Theres a model flag site that has detailed explanations and examples, regards
d vodka

Prince of Essling09 Aug 2020 12:27 a.m. PST

For colourised versions of Viskavotov:

Historical description of the clothing and equipment of Russian troops, with pictures
Edited by: Viskovatova A.v.
Original title: Historical clothes and opisanie Rossijskih vooruzhenija vojsk, with pictures
Publisher: Military typography
Place of publication: Spb.
Year of issue: 1841-1862
The multivolume work "Historical description of clothing and weapons to Russian troops, with pictures, was compiled by the highest commandment of" coming out in St. Petersburg in 1841-1862 Gg. Richly illustrated publication contains detailed description military and civilian costume for the period from 862 until the reign of Emperor Nicholas I, military uniforms, weapons, banners of various military units and military insignia.
Edition came out in the form of notebooks with the attached illustrations in two versions: in an expensive (Whatman, and figures on the Chinese paper) is a partially painted illustrations, and cheaper (text in French, drawings on wove paper)-with black and white illustrations.
All 30 volumes in pdf or djvu at: https://runivers.ru/lib/book3093

Illustrations by volume:
Volume 1 colour
Volume 2 black & white
Volume 3 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 4 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 5 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 6 mainly colour
Volume 7 mixture (most uniforms in colour)
Volume 8 mixture (many uniforms in colour)
Volume 9 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 10 black & white
Volume 11 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 12 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 13 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 14 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 15 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 16 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 17 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 18 mixture (uniforms in colour)
Volume 19 black & white
Volume 20 black & white
Volume 21 black & white
Volume 22 black & white
Volume 23 black & white
Volume 24 black & white
Volume 25 black & white
Volume 26 black & white
Volume 27 black & white
Volume 28 black & white
Volume 29 black & white
Volume 30 black & white

DHautpol09 Aug 2020 3:23 a.m. PST

Thanks you all for your helpful comments.

I have book marked the Viskovatov links and also joined The Wargame Website.

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