Dennis0302 | 11 Mar 2014 11:13 a.m. PST |
I know the Ranger Regiment already uses this weapon but apparently its now going Army wide. The USMC evaluated it in the early 70's at Quantico but never adopted it. link |
GonerGonerGoner | 11 Mar 2014 11:37 a.m. PST |
I didn't realise Carl Gustav had been orphaned. ;) |
HistoryPhD | 11 Mar 2014 11:50 a.m. PST |
I agree Ditto. When the thing fired, it was like the loudest bell you ever heard |
Dennis0302 | 11 Mar 2014 12:08 p.m. PST |
I was at the demo at Quantico and the thing that impressed me, beside the noise, was the variety of rounds for it. HEAT, HE with a special fuse that could be set for the range of the target, illumination, smoke, HESH and some others I can't recall. Guess the guys who make modern US troops need to get started on the molds for this. :) |
Happy Little Trees | 11 Mar 2014 12:22 p.m. PST |
I assume the troops will be calling it a bazooka? |
HistoryPhD | 11 Mar 2014 12:25 p.m. PST |
I think the British called it the "Charlie G", didn't they? |
Lion in the Stars | 11 Mar 2014 12:27 p.m. PST |
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Dennis0302 | 11 Mar 2014 12:35 p.m. PST |
The USMC never adopted the Gustaf. The Gustaf and the SMAW are two different weapons systems. See link for SMAW link |
rct75001 | 11 Mar 2014 12:39 p.m. PST |
"much of the propelling force escapes out of the back, instead of being absorbed by the soldier's body. " Maybe no recoil – but I remember the shockwave from firing one as well as the noise ditto refers to |
Bellbottom | 11 Mar 2014 12:47 p.m. PST |
Plenty black eyes from jumping when the bang goes off |
Steve Wilcox | 11 Mar 2014 12:52 p.m. PST |
Wear ear defenders, it was one of those things that blew my ears out when I crewed it (once) as #2. Riiiiiiiiing for three full days, now I'm still deaf 31 years later; 76mm and 105mm had nothing on the Karl-G. Reminds me of reading Gordon L. Rottman's book The Rocket Propelled Grenade: "When the author fired an RPG-2 the first time without protection it felt as if nails were driven into both ears." Page 54. I had no idea such things were so loud! |
Gaz0045 | 11 Mar 2014 1:12 p.m. PST |
Charlie G in polite company
heavy bustard or similar when not
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Mako11 | 11 Mar 2014 2:43 p.m. PST |
Isn't he rather old to be adopted. I seem to recall the Germans produced a better, more powerful, longer-ranged weapon, back in the day 1970s/1980s. Wonder why that wasn't chosen? |
Tgunner | 11 Mar 2014 3:01 p.m. PST |
Those things are loud. I fired an AT4 and my ears were ringing for some time despite ear plugs. |
Dennis0302 | 11 Mar 2014 3:38 p.m. PST |
The Panzerfaust 3 had a number of issues and could only fire an anti-tank round. It didn't do well in the evaluations at Quantico and the Germans didn't correct them until the 90's. link |
zoneofcontrol | 11 Mar 2014 3:53 p.m. PST |
This is just a test deployment. If these Karl Gustaf samples work out, there are plans to switch up to the larger version called the Karl-Gerat. Link: link |
Major General Stanley | 11 Mar 2014 4:07 p.m. PST |
The 9mil sub cal trainer's a blast. |
French Wargame Holidays | 11 Mar 2014 8:31 p.m. PST |
charlie gutsake we used to call them! |
Sparker | 12 Mar 2014 2:05 a.m. PST |
Bloody noisy, bloody heavy! But 'new' it aint! |
Ben Waterhouse | 12 Mar 2014 3:50 a.m. PST |
Your a big Bu**er Fusilier Waterhouse, carry this
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GeoffQRF | 12 Mar 2014 6:11 a.m. PST |
Guess the guys who make modern US troops need to get started on the molds for this Thought I had already done them with the Ranger guys
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Adam name not long enough | 12 Mar 2014 11:43 a.m. PST |
The latest version isn't the one many of us remember. Composites and plastics have reduced the weight – not so much for the ammunition though! |
HistoryPhD | 12 Mar 2014 2:47 p.m. PST |
Back when, wasn't it in the neighborhood of 18lbs or so? |