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Dennis030211 Mar 2014 11:13 a.m. PST

I know the Ranger Regiment already uses this weapon but apparently its now going Army wide. The USMC evaluated it in the early 70's at Quantico but never adopted it.

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GonerGonerGoner11 Mar 2014 11:37 a.m. PST

I didn't realise Carl Gustav had been orphaned. ;)

HistoryPhD11 Mar 2014 11:50 a.m. PST

I agree Ditto. When the thing fired, it was like the loudest bell you ever heard

Dennis030211 Mar 2014 12:08 p.m. PST

I was at the demo at Quantico and the thing that impressed me, beside the noise, was the variety of rounds for it. HEAT, HE with a special fuse that could be set for the range of the target, illumination, smoke, HESH and some others I can't recall. Guess the guys who make modern US troops need to get started on the molds for this. :)

Happy Little Trees11 Mar 2014 12:22 p.m. PST

I assume the troops will be calling it a bazooka?

HistoryPhD11 Mar 2014 12:25 p.m. PST

I think the British called it the "Charlie G", didn't they?

Lion in the Stars11 Mar 2014 12:27 p.m. PST

Marines call it a SMAW.

Dennis030211 Mar 2014 12:35 p.m. PST

The USMC never adopted the Gustaf. The Gustaf and the SMAW are two different weapons systems. See link for SMAW
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rct7500111 Mar 2014 12:39 p.m. PST

"much of the propelling force escapes out of the back, instead of being absorbed by the soldier's body. "

Maybe no recoil – but I remember the shockwave from firing one as well as the noise ditto refers to

Bellbottom11 Mar 2014 12:47 p.m. PST

Plenty black eyes from jumping when the bang goes off

Steve Wilcox11 Mar 2014 12:52 p.m. PST

Wear ear defenders, it was one of those things that blew my ears out when I crewed it (once) as #2. Riiiiiiiiing for three full days, now I'm still deaf 31 years later; 76mm and 105mm had nothing on the Karl-G.
Reminds me of reading Gordon L. Rottman's book The Rocket Propelled Grenade:
"When the author fired an RPG-2 the first time without protection it felt as if nails were driven into both ears."
Page 54.

I had no idea such things were so loud!

Gaz004511 Mar 2014 1:12 p.m. PST

Charlie G in polite company……heavy bustard or similar when not……

Mako1111 Mar 2014 2:43 p.m. PST

Isn't he rather old to be adopted.

I seem to recall the Germans produced a better, more powerful, longer-ranged weapon, back in the day 1970s/1980s.

Wonder why that wasn't chosen?

Tgunner11 Mar 2014 3:01 p.m. PST

Those things are loud. I fired an AT4 and my ears were ringing for some time despite ear plugs.

Dennis030211 Mar 2014 3:38 p.m. PST

The Panzerfaust 3 had a number of issues and could only fire an anti-tank round. It didn't do well in the evaluations at Quantico and the Germans didn't correct them until the 90's.
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zoneofcontrol11 Mar 2014 3:53 p.m. PST

This is just a test deployment. If these Karl Gustaf samples work out, there are plans to switch up to the larger version called the Karl-Gerat.

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Major General Stanley11 Mar 2014 4:07 p.m. PST

The 9mil sub cal trainer's a blast.

French Wargame Holidays11 Mar 2014 8:31 p.m. PST

charlie gutsake we used to call them!

Sparker12 Mar 2014 2:05 a.m. PST

Bloody noisy, bloody heavy!

But 'new' it aint!

Ben Waterhouse12 Mar 2014 3:50 a.m. PST

Your a big Bu**er Fusilier Waterhouse, carry this…

GeoffQRF12 Mar 2014 6:11 a.m. PST

Guess the guys who make modern US troops need to get started on the molds for this

Thought I had already done them with the Ranger guys…

Adam name not long enough12 Mar 2014 11:43 a.m. PST

The latest version isn't the one many of us remember. Composites and plastics have reduced the weight – not so much for the ammunition though!

HistoryPhD12 Mar 2014 2:47 p.m. PST

Back when, wasn't it in the neighborhood of 18lbs or so?

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