wardog | 09 Mar 2014 3:40 p.m. PST |
what counter sanctions would the Russians use against the us deny us astronauts seats on Soyuz to the iss (getting rid of the shuttle with nothing to replace it bad idea) cutting the us army northern distribution network through Russia to afganistan what other sanctions would they use ? |
evilcartoonist | 09 Mar 2014 3:45 p.m. PST |
Other than those you mentioned, does the U.S rely on much from Russia? Here's a list of their top-10 exports, all of which the U.S seems to have or get from elsewhere: link Hopefully, they'll stop the export of photos of shirtless Putin. |
Redroom | 09 Mar 2014 3:48 p.m. PST |
Nationalize or close businesses we have there (ex: McDonalds, Exxon, etc). |
Only Warlock | 09 Mar 2014 3:59 p.m. PST |
Dump our debt. Cut off natural gas to the EU to try to neutralize them as a US asset. Assassinate Yukon Smirnoff. You know, the usual. |
Zargon | 09 Mar 2014 4:01 p.m. PST |
No more vodka for American alcoholics and no more babushka dolls that said alcoholics can buy late at night at gas stations to make up with there kids for coming home late again? |
Striker | 09 Mar 2014 4:13 p.m. PST |
As long as the mail order bride stream is not affected we won't be shaken. |
tberry7403 | 09 Mar 2014 4:18 p.m. PST |
No more vodka for American alcoholics That'll freak Chelsea Handler right out! |
Mako11 | 09 Mar 2014 4:18 p.m. PST |
Preventing us from inspecting their nukes. As I said before, the agreements with Russia/Putin aren't worth the paper they're written on. No more vodka, caviar, or Russian brides for me
. I may have to boycott the Sochi F1 race too, if it isn't cancelled in protest. The Zvezda boycott may be more difficult to endure, so will need to doublecheck on where that stuff is produced. They make such nice stuff. |
Caesar | 09 Mar 2014 4:34 p.m. PST |
Mako, how many Russian brides do you have? |
Mardaddy | 09 Mar 2014 4:35 p.m. PST |
Many US investors have business ties in Russia that could be curtailed; and nothing stopping Russia from freezing US assets in any of their banks same as we do to entities that get our goat. |
Lion in the Stars | 09 Mar 2014 4:37 p.m. PST |
The Zvezda boycott would suck. Most of the vodka consumed in the US isn't from Russia (usually Scandahooligan), though I think most caviar is. That's only going to effect the Hollywood scene, though they have a disparate impact on US politics. |
Only Warlock | 09 Mar 2014 4:39 p.m. PST |
The real issue is that Ukraine is the third largest grain supplier in the world and Russia gets the bulk of theirs from the Ukraine. |
Mako11 | 09 Mar 2014 4:43 p.m. PST |
Zero, sadly. Can't afford one. Rumor has it another family member has a Russian bride though. |
HistoryPhD | 09 Mar 2014 4:47 p.m. PST |
99% of the world's quality caviar comes from Russia and Iran. Looks like caviar eaters are in for a hard time. |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 09 Mar 2014 5:55 p.m. PST |
OMG that sounds a bit blue fez, kyote. Isn't there another place called Current Events for it? ;P |
McWong73 | 09 Mar 2014 6:02 p.m. PST |
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Garand | 09 Mar 2014 8:41 p.m. PST |
Personally if Zvezda is cut off, I don't think it would be a huge loss (for me at least). Their 1/100 Art of Tactic tanks are a touch mediocre compared to the competition (PSC, and now BF), and their 1/35 kits are nothing to write home about either (the only other interest I have in them). That being said, I would be far more disturbed if the aftermarket producers over there are cut off (but then most of my stuff comes from Hobby Link Japan anyway?) Damon. |
Mako11 | 09 Mar 2014 11:57 p.m. PST |
I guess it depends upon whether you're a modern gamer, or not, since as fas as I know PSC doesn't make any modern vehicles yet, and the BF tanks are very expensive for moderns, compared to other WWII vehicles from other manufacturers. Hopefully, more companies will decide modern tanks and ifvs are a good option for expanding their market share, eventually. |
Virtualscratchbuilder | 10 Mar 2014 4:28 a.m. PST |
I would miss the Combrig kits. |
GeoffQRF | 10 Mar 2014 4:50 a.m. PST |
Here's a list of their top-10 exports Perhaps more significantly, here is the top importers from Russia: link Note that "Among the listed nations, 10 decreased their imports from Russia over the 5-year period ending in 2012." The next 5 years could be interesting
As you can see, Netherlands is the top importer of Russian products (surreal) although as an import partner Russia falls 6th on Netherlands lists. The figures may be slightly misleading due to the volume of oil and gas imported. Remove that and the picture could look significantly different. My bride is Ukrainian, not Russian :-) |
Fred Cartwright | 10 Mar 2014 6:01 a.m. PST |
As long as the mail order bride stream is not affected we won't be shaken. There is still the Far East to choose from and the Ukrainian girls are very pretty too! |
Zargon | 10 Mar 2014 6:24 a.m. PST |
GeoffQRF why did you go for a knockoff, 3ussians too pricy? |
GeoffQRF | 10 Mar 2014 6:35 a.m. PST |
I'd already been to Russia. This was a far more attractive deal :-P |
wardog | 11 Mar 2014 2:52 p.m. PST |
just heard it could affect supplies of titanium. it wont affect us military aircraft but will affect civilian jetliners |
Martin From Canada | 11 Mar 2014 3:31 p.m. PST |
The big one (in dollar terms) is the main engine for Atlas V heavy-medium lift rockets since they are all desined and made in Russia by NPO Energomash. On a Kg per Kg basis, the RD-180 family of rocket engines are the lightest and most reliable there is. link Virtually every aspect of the manned and unmanned US space program – including NASA, other government agencies, private aerospace company's and crucially important US national security payloads – are highly dependent on Russian & Ukrainian rocketry and are therefore potentially at risk amidst the current Crimea crisis as tensions flared up dangerously in recent days between Ukraine and Russia with global repercussions.The International Space Station (ISS), astronaut rides to space and back, the Atlas V and Antares rockets and even critical U.S. spy satellites providing vital, real time intelligence gathering are among the examples of programs that may be in peril if events deteriorate or worse yet, spin out of control. The Crimean confrontation and all the threats and counter threats of armed conflicts and economic sanctions shines a spotlight on US vulnerabilities regarding space exploration, private industry and US national security programs, missions, satellites and rockets. |
GeoffQRF | 12 Mar 2014 2:13 a.m. PST |
Virtually every aspect of the manned and unmanned US space program – including NASA, other government agencies, private aerospace company's and crucially important US national security payloads – are highly dependent on Russian & Ukrainian rocketry
Roll on China's chance to supplant Russia in the space race? |
wardog | 17 Mar 2014 5:25 a.m. PST |
wasn't there a French actor that got Russian citizenship to avoid paying tax in france will he be targeted I wonder |
Zephyr40k | 17 Mar 2014 2:22 p.m. PST |
SpaceX has the capability to supply the ISS. We no longer are completely reliant on the Russians for this. link |
GeoffQRF | 18 Mar 2014 2:56 a.m. PST |
We no longer are completely reliant on the Russians for this This recent action may see the US start to look harder at other alternatives for the future as well. It's not the actions now, but the future knock on effects that Russia should be thinking about. |