"Can we get a dedicated Tango board?" Topic

By instituting a Tango board, he could post all he wants there. Those who are interested in his topics could choose to see it on their front page. Those who aren't (or who just want to take a break from it) could choose to hide the board on their front page.

I for one find it annoying to see his posts constantly pushing other, miniature related posts, off the front page. I come here to see what the community is talking about and far too often there's only a single voice monopolizing half of the front page and it's little more than a news aggregate.

Well, I'm certainly glad someone broached this topic as it as never been mentioned before…CH.

Good idea

I propossed it long ago and the idea was shot down in short order.

It is worth considering an alternative method of high quantity posting by one individual.

Either his own board or the super stifle so that I could turn back on the 60+ boards I turned off to cut down on the spam I have to wade through.

Yes, this would be a good compromise. People who want his links would subscribe.

If it was shot down it needs to be re-examined. Why not? It would make everyone happy.

Isn't this all about compromise??? We are all a big family. Let's get along.

Thumbs up!

Geat another anti-Tango thread. Can I petition to have these threads turned off, so I never have to see them too?

Damon.

It's not an anti-Tango thread. I'm not saying stifle or ban Tango or stop him from his prolific posting. I think giving him his own board, essentially his own "newspaper" section is a fair compromise. That way other topics might have a chance to stay on the front page longer.

And Garand, if he had his own board then you would also get your wish as these threads would be unnecessary.

Take a quick look at the past week. I daresay half of the new topics were created by Tango and then after starting them he participated in nearly none of them. And of those topics how many directly pertain to miniature war gaming? A few directly, the others tenuously at best.

It would appear that alot of people this side of the Pond are for it but not so on the other side. Might explain why lots of Brits and Europeans are migrating to other forums that are more Euro-centric.

I think giving him his own board is fair.

"Yawn"

oy.

it's the reason I stopped being a paying member

I find him to be an irritant. When he was active on the HaT forum, he posted a long list of reference works that could be used by those gaming Leipzig (IIRC). Every one of the books was a bogus title.
I'd vote to give him his own board.
Bob

I'm just curious, when I see a topic title that I am not interested in, or see that title is created by someone whose posts I don't care for, I simply don't read it. Is this not a viable solution?

I find some of his posts useful, strange, funny,duplicates,useless.
Would not like to hound the guy or put him in a box .
His posts are like a personal assistant bombarding you with information that you can not find yourself,just take what you need.
Perhaps if 3 or 4 people put in the same time and effort and spammed the boards in the same way something would have to be done?
Thing is I can not see anyone achieving this so…..just wade through like everyone else.

I'd like to see this put to a vote as otherwise we are just going to be endlessly discussing this over and over again.
On the positive side TMP would still be getting the clicks it needs and people not interested would be happier about participating here.
Tango would still be able to participate in threads that other people post.

Really it should be a 'TMP Plus' board. Of course if you do get it, it will only fuel demand for 'Samba', 'Salsa', 'Merengue' and god preserve us, 'Ballroom Dancing' boards. Be careful what you ask for.

I would happily vote for a Samba board myself, but I see it subdividing into further sub-boards, like 'samba da roda', 'samba no pé', 'pagode', etc, etc.

Hi Jowady,

The biggest issue for me is the way that it pushes topics that are relevant to the hobby off the front page. Wading through them and ignoring them is workable if one checks TMP constantly. If you don't, 12 or 15 posts in a series by Tango will push things that might have interested you off the page and, given the byzantine search engine etc., you'll likely never know they were there. It's currently not possible to scroll through previous front pages. One can block individual boards from showing up on the front page but Tango is prolific and his posts are scatter gun. You'd have to block numerous different boards. I think, given the volume of his posts that it warrants giving him his own board to which he could post to his hearts content. Those of us who choose could then hide that board so that our homepage remains clean (and frankly more varied and on topic).

I don't hate Tango's posts. Some are tangentially interesting. I'd surely drop in on his board occasionally to skim the various topic headings and check out what interests me. But I am frankly tired of so many of them on the homepage. They are simply not, for the overwhelming majority, gaming discussions.

And nope, I'm not going to give it a rest and I think it's highly rude of people to suggest that we should. It's not a small minority that is annoyed.

How hard is it to understand that when he posts 70+ threads to the front page it knocks the same amount of threads off the front page (which as we know means it doesn't exist)?

Tango posts are not without a downside.

Just to put a number here, my front page currently has 56 threads started by Tango. That's 56 other threads from other other that have been pushed off by one single poster. Almost all of Tango's posts are brief excerpts from a web article somewhere else with a link. That's not exactly "hobby discussion." Few of them ever revolve around how something might be gamed or what figures could be used for a certain scenario. They're not necessary uninteresting; they're just not the primary interest that TMP serves. And the kicker for me is that he almost never participates in any discussion that he starts.

I'm betting these last two post will be ignored and the next time the subject comes up the same, tired old reply will be:

"if you don't want to read it, don't click on it."

This is the exact same garbage that nearly drove me away a few years ago.
"Gcive the OFM his own Board sio I don;t have to read his drivel."
ALL such "Let's limit Tango01" threads are nothing but "personal attacks" and fit the TMP definition of "personal attacks" that deserve Dawghousing.
I would start such a Poll Suggestion, but I am totally opposed to "should [FILL IN THE NAME HERE] be {TREATED LOKE SOMETHING THAT DOES NOT DESERVE TO BE ON TMP".

The only thing I would support is "Should ALL TMP Members limited to X number of daily posts?"
Or, the Super Stifle. There aer other Members more deserving than Tango of that.

It was reprehensible when Polls were run along the lines of "Should the OFM…" and equally so when they were applied to Connard Sage.

Some people need to grow up and get a life.

As for "pushing things off", I ave never seen a thread that I could not follow by going to the appropriate board. I am primarily interested in the American Revolution and in Flames of War. Full discussions are going on there for some topics that are many days old. even without Tango, they would still have fallen off the front page.

I don't think you were treated fairly in the past so understand where you are coming from. That's completely different than what Tango does. But I get your point.

It really isn't about Tango as much as should there be a daily limit on ALL users as far as starting threads. The reason it's just about Tango is that he's the only one that has the poor taste to continue to behave in a way that MANY people have said annoys them. No one else has such poor manners so it really has become about him.

Forgot to address the other point. So you think your TMP behavior is typical of the rest of the users? Hardly. It's very common for topics to die suddenly when they drop off the front page. It's kind of silly to argue that because one person who spends a lot of time here follows old threads that everyone does.

To paraphrase, in style at least, OFM. Remembering imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.

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The worm has definitely turned for me, I think the day I opened a post that was a link to the exact same product advertisement that had been running on the tmp front page for two days was "the straw" which forced my already over tango'd back to break and actually choose a dog in this fight.

Too much is just too much

At least Bill will get a boost in numbers from this thread

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dave

Vote 1 "like button signatures", and kill two birds with one stone

Having his own board would be a good compromise.

Can I have my own board too? I suspect it would be cheaper than setting up my own blog?

I visually filter his nonsense because I dont want to read endless stuff about the us military and its latest drone or whatever. I come here for original posts about miniatures and gaming. Neither of those are provided in the twenty odd tango post bomb runs a day.

I have to agree that the scatter bomb approach to starting threads is annoying, it's a bit like getting all that junk mail, once in a blue moon one of those flyers might be of use or interest, but for the most part it just gets in the way and irritates.

Geez, the things I like least in the world are Lynch mobs, and peasants with torches and pitchforks.

He's different. So, lets hang him high. Let us burn him at the stake. Tar and feathers, perhaps.

Bill's laws apply to him as they do to you and me. As far as I can see he hasn't broken Bill's law. So leave the guy to sit in the corner on his own. YOU DON'T HAVE TO ENGAGE WITH HIM!

Good grief.

Completely agree Olicana, completely agree

Geez, the things I like least in the world are Lynch mobs, and peasants with torches and pitchforks.

He's different. So, lets hang him high. Let us burn him at the stake. Tar and feathers, perhaps.

Wow dude can I have some of those drugs your on, the ones that totally obscure the OP and make the words of the responders in the thread rearrange themselves so they read like hate and lynch mentality messages.

Your response is so far removed from the reality of the thread that I would go so as to say it's bordering on flammable. Where on planet olicana does it say he can't post? And as for his "corner", the thread is all about giving him his own desk not a corner, in fact he should be running the news section of tmp, gods knows he has been known to repeat a good deal of it in his postings.

I say give Tango his own desk and a little cardboard tag with newshound on it to stick in the band of his trilby. Let him loose on the world of gaming, or boobies figurines, or whatever his sujet d'actualité du jour might be. He would probably do a good job.

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Waiting for the DH blackshirts because some choose to deliberately……..

……a sensible Tango thread discussion seeking a fight instead

It is hardly a Lynch mob. It is a request that a function by put in place so those who wish to use it can improve their enjoyment of using TMP ,those that do not wish to use it may still see all of tangos posts. Everyone gets what they want, tango can still post to his hearts content, no one loses.
Phil.

YES He can have his own board. On YOUR forum playing by YOUR rules. As above 'olicana. says. Its not a 'Ukraine' debate its TMP. Zounds would you have the death nell put on this place? Undemocratic behavior is like machlivelian poisons to true Gamers. Tango1 is part of a community liked or not grumbled or lauded about, he is not Uncle Berty with terrible secrets who we visit when we want a hex removed, its not cricket. And I don't think is got anything to do with ponds and where you live in relationship to them. Here's hoping Tango1 does not take the bait and try to reason like he did before. If you don't have the time to check out TMP at least once a day why should it be changed to suit your own personal needs. And yes if your not interested in reading a T1 article don't. Nuff said.

Here‘s a practical reason why giving Tango his own board would be a bad idea: he'd still be able to cross post to all the other boards, and might be able to do this more easily than he does at present.
All you can do if you don‘t like his posts is turn off as many boards as you can, especially if they are the ones he posts to a lot, and then just try to scroll past his remaining front page posts.
Also, remember there are always other forums to browse where his sort of behaviour would not be tolerated.
Nothing will ever be done about Tango on TMP as it‘s Tango‘s Miniatures Page now.

Has anyone ever learned what Bill's opinion is on this on-going issue?

Doug

@ Paint Pig- the only sensible anti Tango thread is the one not started.

@bong67- yes, this posting on forums behavior should most definitely not be tolerated.

I do not understand the position taken by some that everyone MUST experience TMP in the same way as they do, and that if they do not enjoy Tangos posts, then they are wrong. It is not about not opening posts, or is it about "that is the way TMP is, like it or go away". It is about an issue that is irritating to many members and every time someone leaves or visits less often, our community is lessened.

Phil

And are these endless discussions giving anything positive to our community?

I certainly don´t read everything Tango posts, no one has that kind of time, but I also don´t feel the need to post time and time again attacks on a fellow member. It is immature and mean spirited, and neither kosher nor Christian.

Paint Pig, aren´t you able to insult us all without resorting to trite pictures?

Hi Texas Jack

I do not intend anything I have posted as a personal attack, merely a request that every member be able to tailor their front page to their own liking, everyone wins, no one loses, no more attacks, lynch mobs, less striffe in the community.

Phil.

Actually I just thought up a solution. How about a news feed in the left hand margin. As Tango is essentially just a news feed of cool stuff why not separate it from the main discussions. It's a lot like TGN in a way, merely presenting items of possible interest. I could be mistaken but there is little content that is not merely a link or a quote followed by a link. Moving the Tango feed to the sidebar would allow regular discussions to occur unobstructed. Sound fair?

That´s fair enough kreoseus, but this has been discussed over and over, and the result is always the same- no. But perhaps with TMP 4.0 threads from stifled accounts will not show up on the main page. Whether this will be or not, I have no way of knowing, but you can ask Bill if he intends to add this feature.
I certainly hope this is implemented, because threads like this are very negative and show our members in an unfortunate light. I love to visit Paint Pig´s blog, but now he has insulted me and so I won´t. Who loses? I do. What a pity.

Paint Pig, aren´t you able to insult us all without resorting to trite pictures?

"All"???? The only insult on this thread is by those willingly derailing it so it takes on an anti Tango theme. If you include yourself in that group of willing and wanton de-railers (I don't) and feel insulted by a trite photo there is little I can do to help you or ease your pain.

Actually I just thought up a solution. How about a news feed in the left hand margin.

Excellent idea and similar to the one I mentioned earlier (if the flamers had bothered to read and comprehend it), give him an official position, he deserves it.

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dave

No.

@ Paint Pig
And so the answer to my question appears to be no. Thank you for clearing that up.

LOL Nice try Texas Jack link

kind regards and best wishes for your future endeavours
dave

This is a very good idea , and I wish Bill would take it up.

His posts are like a personal assistant bombarding you with information

Add in any of the words "unwanted", "unasked for", "unsolicited" before the word "information" and you are spot on with this analogy.
And I think we all know what would happen to a PA who repeatedly does this.

I'd rather have a dedicated "Whining About Tango" board, so I don't have to see all this endless crap.
-Kle.