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Murvihill15 Feb 2014 5:25 a.m. PST

This is an idea I had for a Boxer Campaign. Basically, you start from the upper left, and travel through the flowchart based on who wins or loses a battle:
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ITALWARS15 Feb 2014 5:50 a.m. PST

Seem very very interesting for me…
is exactly that sort of historical sequence of tactical events that led to a chained reaction strategical sequence
any other campaign rules/Toes/ecc?

LongshotGC Supporting Member of TMP15 Feb 2014 9:55 a.m. PST

I LOVE IT!

Kind of a programmed campaign. Of course, I'm a flowchart geek from way back so I'm biased…brilliant nevertheless and could be applied to just about anything (as a concept).

Thanks for sharing.

Murvihill15 Feb 2014 1:46 p.m. PST

ITALWARS, not sure exactly what you're asking?
If its "Does the flowchart follow the actual history?" then the answer is yes:
1. Chinese government tries to suppress Boxers and fails.
2. Boxers besiege the Legations in Peking and the trade enclave in Tianjin with the tacit help of the Chinese government.
3. Admiral Seymour attempts to relieve the Legations but fails. I think he was relying on the railroad to get him there more than anything else, but when the Boxers broke the line he didn't have the troops or supply lines for a ground campaign. Seymour was rescued after holing up in the arsenal.
4. The Chinese, distressed at Admiral Seymour's "Invasion", take an active role in stopping Western relief efforts.
5. General Gasalee takes the Taku Forts and conducts a successful ground campaign to the gates of Peking.

Other than the assaults on the Legation and Tianjin and Seymour's last stand the battles are all real. The assaults would be highlights of the sieges rather than the actual siege, which wouldn't be very entertaining. I put in a fictional last stand battle for Seymour since that would have been the result if he failed to capture Xigu Arsenal.

If on the other hand your question was "Could this be applied to other campaigns?" I think it could, but often colonial campaigns were more linear in nature so it may take more thought to work them out. The Indian Mutiny might translate easily.

If you're asking whether there are scenarios already planned for the various battles, there are in various publications like "Colonial Campaigns", but I didn't try to stitch them all together.

sjwalker3816 Feb 2014 3:18 a.m. PST

Very nice idea, thanks for sharing – much easier to run than the normal campaign.

I think Longshot was asking if there were any additional rules by which you ran the campaign – would, for example, any casualties suffered by Gasalee at the battle of Beicang be carried over to the assault on Peking or was each stage played as a separate game?

Would be very interesting to see the OOBs you worked up of the different forces involved – were they based on history or on what figures you had available?

I can see applications for both the Indian Mutiny and the 1879 Zulu War, amongst others

Thanks again for sharing

LongshotGC Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2014 1:02 p.m. PST

Actually, the thing I think is fun about the concept is the notion of applying a certain strategic logic/decision tree/sequence of events to any type of campaign, any rules set, etc.

For example, I could be running a fantasy campaign. We all know the horror stories about people not getting their orders done, showing up to meetings, etc. This way, the choices people have to make are much more finite; the campaign really becomes a sequence of "set piece" battles. So long as the campaign doesn't have any type of other mechanics going on, e.g., economy management, diplomacy, etc., it really takes the weight of campaign participation off the shoulders of the players. Whoever is running the campaign simply has to work out the logic of various choices and outcomes…"if you fight here and lose, the logical direction of retreat would be here" and so on.

It's that notion of programming in the logic/critical thought of military campaign strategies and choices that I believe make it so intriguing.

ITALWARS17 Feb 2014 1:01 p.m. PST

Murvihill..i was simply congratulating you about this idea that you are so kindly partaging with us…and was asking if they are also some Toes to help making this campaign…i have the Colonial Campaigns book..and i'll look at it…
thanks again

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