Takeda1x | 11 Feb 2014 8:42 a.m. PST |
Need some help in making a decision. I currently have tons of 15mm ww2 but would like to go down a scale or two for some operational gaming. Checked out 3mm and various 10mm lines. 3mm are nice but too small for my eyes and 10mm are still a bit too big physically for what Iam looking for. Was leaning towards Ghq till Skytrex rereleased the action 1/200 line. I read that the skytrex infantry are poor and adler will work on the fly. Also heard that some of the skytrex castings are off a bit but I know that going into it. I know ghq quality but iam still concerned that they may be too small for my aging eyes. From what I can see on the web the 1/200 may be the sweet spot iam looking for. I also hear yhat baccus may be releasing some ww2 around the same scale as 1/200 but not sure how true that is. So I was hoping for comments and/or photo comparisons of actual miniature from others who have been down this road. Iam not looking for bashing of one or the other just honest opinions of others who may have physically handled miniatures from both lines. Otherwise, I may have to bite the bullet and spend some cash on samples but trying to avoid wasteful expenditures. I have been doing some pricing on both lines and know what to expect. Although I was a little perplexed that a single 1/200 at gun costs the same as a single 1/200 tank but I know that going forward. Okay, enough rambling on my end. Thanks for any helpful thoughts and/or comments. |
elsyrsyn | 11 Feb 2014 9:28 a.m. PST |
I am a big fan of 1/285 and 1/300 and 6mm. In my opinion, the variety of manufacturers and products available in 6mm will outweigh any advantages of 1/200. Also (this is a factor for me, but may not be for you), 6mm is widely supported in other periods, so you can use the same terrain and accessories for various things. Doug |
Cerdic | 11 Feb 2014 9:44 a.m. PST |
Baccus is a producer of 6mm figures. They are working on a WW2 range but it is not yet known what scale the vehicles will be. The brief is to make them look compatible with the figures, so I've heard. My guess is they will be closer to the 1/300 1/285 end of things than to 1/200. But who knows
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Steve W | 11 Feb 2014 10:26 a.m. PST |
Well most of the Baccus figures are approx 8mm high from foot to eye so if their vehicles are compatible then the GHQ or C in C stuff might be too small |
Cerdic | 11 Feb 2014 10:36 a.m. PST |
Well this is the thing, isn't it? There have been lots of posts about 6mm WW2 stuff and people often say how they prefer Adler infantry with GHQ vehicles. Now Adler figures are generally a touch larger than Baccus. Confusing
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Dye4minis | 11 Feb 2014 10:38 a.m. PST |
If Baccus WWII figures stand 8mm high (minus the base, then their vehicles should be (out of the production mold) at 1/225 scale. Due to shrinkage, the N scale (12mm) masters were designed in 1/156th scale. Due to mold shrinkage from the rubber we used, the production vehicles usually came out at 1/160th scale. It may sound like a rather large difference, but imperceivable visually until you put a set of calibers against them. While I have very little experience using silicone rubber disks for production molds for such close tolerances, with the black rubber molds, the shrinkage factor needs to be understood by any maker wishing to obtain the best tolerances in keeping to true scale. In reality, nobody has ever convinced me that 3.5 microns off one way or the other ever took away the joy of gaming with the right vehicles! I wish the best of luck for the Baccus Boys (and girl(s)?) with their new range! |
Steve W | 11 Feb 2014 11:13 a.m. PST |
In reality, nobody has ever convinced me that 3.5 microns off one way or the other ever took away the joy of gaming with the right vehicles! And you call yourself a wargamer LOL |
Dynaman8789 | 11 Feb 2014 11:50 a.m. PST |
Baccus showed a preview of their vehicles at one time and that was roughly a 1/220 model – so they will not mix with any others (even GHQ which are large). |
LeonAdler | 11 Feb 2014 1:04 p.m. PST |
Well for a start our infantry ( 6.4 to eye level, get digital calipers please) will not work with the Skytrex 200th stuff the figures are way too small. Have you thought about the Pendraken WW2 range? Some nice stuff there from what Ive seen. Theres quite a few other firms out there ( Pithead and I think Minfigs do a range amongst several others). Cant do better then 285 in my opinion lol L |
Old Warrior | 21 Jun 2014 8:36 a.m. PST |
Well I disagree the Adler infantry used with the Skytrex vehicles is a very nice fit. The infantries is not compatible for sure and the Skytrex are a head taller. However many of the vehicles have figures cast inside the vehicle figure which are the same size as the Adler infantry. |
madaxeman | 24 Jun 2014 8:18 a.m. PST |
The key issue might be that Skytrex are the only manufacturer of 1/200th scale figures and vehicles, and they haven't really produced any new ones for a while and may well not do so in future (I think, but am prepared to stand corrected). 1/285th or 1/300th (and you can just about assume they are interchangeable) both have multiple manufacturers with active, growing ranges. Likewise, even though it is perhaps too big, there is a lot of choice and growing ranges for 10mm/12mm/1/150th/1/144th (again all sort of interchangeble). |