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Druzhina04 Feb 2014 4:18 a.m. PST

Illustrations of 14th century Flemish Militia from the Leugemeete Frescos


Reconstructions from
Recherches Historiques sur Les Costumes Civils Et Militaires des Gildes Et Des Corporations De Métiers by Félix de Vigne (thanks to Swampster for the source)
1) Brotherhood of St George
2) Brotherhood of St George
3) Brotherhood of St Sebastian
4) Butchers' Guild
5) Fishmongers' Guild / Bakers' Guild
6) Brewers' Guild
7) Textile Cutters' Guild

Reconstructions from
Afbeeldingen van het Sint-Pietersdorp en de Stad Gent
1-3) Brotherhood of St George / Brotherhood of St George / Brotherhood of St Sebastian
2-6) Butchers' Guild / Fishmongers' Guild / Bakers' Guild / Brewers' Guild
7) Textile Cutters' Guild

There are marked differences in the interpretation of the frescos between the two sets of reconstructions.

MIRROR SITE
Flemish Militia from the Leugemeete Frescos

Druzhina
14th Century Illustrations of Costume & Soldiers

uglyfatbloke04 Feb 2014 9:34 a.m. PST

Useful contribution Druzhina.

lkmjbc304 Feb 2014 10:58 a.m. PST

What is that on the Brewer's Guild banner?

Joe Collins

Puster Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Feb 2014 12:58 p.m. PST

Interesting distribution of weapons between Sword, Pike, Crossbow and Goedendag. A fine source again, thanks!

Great War Ace04 Feb 2014 1:00 p.m. PST

@Joe: Impossible to say. It looks like a stick….

Swampster04 Feb 2014 1:03 p.m. PST

If you look at p91 of
link you can see the whole arms of the Brewers' Guild. Unfortunately, there doesn't seem to be a explanation of why the dividing line is like that. A brewer's stirring stick?

Great War Ace04 Feb 2014 6:08 p.m. PST

"Oops there was a problem displaying this page" A stir stick sounds like a good guess….

Swampster05 Feb 2014 1:01 a.m. PST

Try link and follow the first link. The original link was to Google books which has started using a new format.

Fonzie05 Feb 2014 4:00 a.m. PST

It is indeed a stirring stick.

I'm Flemish btw and I did some research into this in 2002 when my friends and I played A LOT of Battle of the Golden Spurs wargames to commemorate the 700th anniversary of this battle.

Vlaanderen de Leeuw !! :-)

Fons
mmps.asia

WillieB05 Feb 2014 4:37 a.m. PST

Quite right Fonzie! It's indeed a stirring stick ( roerstok)

Vlaendere endie Leeu!

Lagartija Mike16 Feb 2014 11:17 a.m. PST

Great evocative stuff! Thanks Druzhina!

Ereimover01 Nov 2019 9:38 a.m. PST

The Leugemeete Frescos and the Courtrai Chest give an excellent representation of a 14th century Flemish Communal Army, with uniformed and well equiped units with pikes and the famous 'goedendag'.
Unfortunately, it was next to impossible to field such an army in 28mm, because the miniatures were lacking. Eventually, I had my own miniatures sculpted by the 'Commission a Miniature' service of Steve Barber Models. They will be available soon.
The link gives access to some pictures of the 'Brotherhood of Saint Sebastian' and the 'Butchers Guild'. Some of these gents have taken their axes, eager to try them out against a charging French knight…
stippies.be/?page_id=2716

Druzhina03 Nov 2019 1:04 a.m. PST
Personal logo BigRedBat Sponsoring Member of TMP03 Nov 2019 9:01 a.m. PST

Those are super, thanks! Super to see the goedendags.

Ereimover29 Nov 2019 8:48 a.m. PST

Now also for sale on the Steve Barber website + more to follow. Aside 'marching poses' I think some militiamen with goedendags in action are needed, alongside personalities and crossbowmen in action.

link

Ereimover23 Jan 2021 2:46 a.m. PST

Hurrah! Steve Barber kindly accepted my commission to sculpt several Flemish militiamen, based on the Leugemeete and the Courtrai Chest illustrations. A dozen different miniatures are already available, ranging from a standard bearer over militiamen with open hands (two types of goedendags and other weapons are supplied) to several poses of crossbowmen. More are to follow, including some personalities of the Flemish rebellions against the French.
More on link

With these miniatures now available, suddenly all objections to bringing a new, colourful and exiting army to your medieval wargame table disappear: a Flemish city militia army wielding their famous goedendags!

The following battles might inspire you for your next medieval battle:
Courtrai 1302 – the famous Flemish victory
Arques 1303 – a Flemish column ambushed by French knights
Mons-en-Pévèle 1304 – both sides claimed victory
Cassel 1328 – a Flemish defeat
Saint Omer 1340 (HYW) – the Flemish right wing wins, the left wing is defeated
Beverhoutsveld 1382 – Ghent v Bruges, with the Bruges militia too drunk to fight
Roozebeke 1382 – attacking through a dense fog is not always a good idea

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