"ACW 'What if'! Perry Brits for 1861" Topic

If the Perry's produce this range I will certainly will be purchasing a bucket load of them!

Well you could supplement them or just start now using the Eureka Maori War figures. That would give you the option of the undress tunic and campaign gear, which seems a more likely prospect to me for any hypothetical campaign. It's certainly what was worn for most of the actual overseas conflicts that British troops fought in.

Of course the Perry's involvement might tempt me to do the Battle of Ridgeway.

Aha, just looked at the Perry's website. It seems serge frock tunics and campaign kit is also planned. Great minds think alike it seems. Now those are useful as it gives the Empress Maori War figures some more opposition. If they would just do some airpipe helmets then China and Abyssinia would be on the cards (yes I know they sculpted the Foundry Second Opium War British).

I like these a lot. I enjoy the what if games. Please it would add some color to the confederate side of things, though I guess that as the units were sent to Canada, there would be battles only in the north, along the Canadian borders.

Still very nice looking figures.

Be careful with all this, or you will have Canadian irregulars manning tripods marching into New England to face Union troops armed with zeppelins …

Which could be really cool, actually.

MY Yankee Canuck War takes place in 1885.
No tripods, but we do have giant mechanical spiders.

If the Perry's produce this range

I don't think they'd bother producing greens if they didn't plan to release them.

"Please it would add some color to the confederate side of things, though I guess that as the units were sent to Canada, there would be battles only in the north, along the Canadian borders."

I don't know if that would be the case. We certainly didn't stick to the Canadian border in the 1812 war. The Union navy was certainly stronger than the American Navy in 1812 but I bet a landing could be forced on friendly Southern soil, especially in a place like Charleston.

I'm not sure what uniforms they would have been wearing but could these figures not also work for the early part of the Maximilian Adventure?

And for the Battle of Ridgeway, 1866…

Eric

Would these work for the Oregon dispute of the late 1840s?

Since it will be for a hypothetical match-up, you can use them anywhere you want.
In MY war, the first thing the Yankees did was invade Manitoba to seize the Phinnertite mines.

I strongly suspect that the Great Lakes will be in play. And throw Lake Champlain into the mix too.
All kinds of battles aimed at severing railroad lines close to the shore. With all the "best" Union troops in the South!

It would be interesting to see rules that cover differing tactical doctrine and expertise.

Is it my imagination or is the posing on Perry figures getting stiffer and more wooden with each passing year. Not a patch on their early stuff.

Time to put in the earplugs before the fan boys start howling bloody murder

regards
dave

Time to put in the earplugs before the fan boys start howling bloody murder

Look it up in the FAQ. "Thou shalt not criticize the Perrys."
Far too many get away with it by way of apostrophe abuse, as in "Perry's".

People are entitled to their opinions, no matter how wrong-headedly obtuse.

You know with some US types in frock coats and Hardee hats, these would be the ideal figures for the 'almost happened' 1859 'Pig War'.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pig_War

In answer to the question as to whether these would be suitable for the Oregon border dispute in the 1840s, the answer is no. For that you would be better off using Sikh War figures. Foundry make a range in 28mm and I have a vague memory that someone else does too.

Update, it's a kickstarter by Studio Miniatures. Lovely looking figures they are too.

link

Old Glory also makes a line of Sikh War figs in 28mm.

We have used Foundry Crimean British in Tunics and the good Riel Rebellion Range of Rafm to do both Ridgeway and a couple what-ifs for 1860-70's.

I just wish they would do Union Cavalry dismounted command and union command in Frock Coat!

Hello Sam, did you see these? Can we get a Longstreet expansion for them please, pretty please?

@ Paint Pig:

From what they have put on the metals workbench, there will be:
-one firing line code, with six figures in loading/firing positions, one-three slightly different firing, the rest in diverse loading stages.

-one skirmish code, with six different poses.

-one advancing code, musket forwards, with six slightly different poses.

-one marching code, with six slightly different poses.

-two Scots guards codes, one standing, one marching, each with six slightly different poses.

-one 1855 shakos marching code, with six slightly different poses.

-one command code, with six different figures, possibly half standing and half marching.

It looks like the Carlists range, with some thiry-forty codes at most, a nicely compensated range with good variation.

;-)

And of course you need Canadian militia cavalry in frogged jackets and metal helmets.

Thanks for the info.

Hello Sam, did you see these? Can we get a Longstreet expansion for them please, pretty please?

2nd that.
Mind you, to create some specific cards for the Brits wouldn't be too hard I suspect.

Realistically it would be more like Canadian militia cavalry in pillbox caps.

Ugh, just got some other figures for an upcoming Pig war game. And I doubt that these will be out in time for me to get them on the tabble anyway. But very glad to see the figures.

Why is there so much fascination with the British entering the ACW? It is just as likely the Martians would enter the war. Where are the Union Elephant Corps with elephants supplied by the King of Siam.

It would have been more plausible that the Russians would side with the Union. That may have forced Britain's hand if it wasn't for that pesky slavery thing.

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No.

Britain came surprisingly close to getting involved five times. The nearest was the Trent crisis of 1861, where HMG actually issued war orders to her theatre commanders to be acted upon immediately Lord Lyons signaled Lincoln had refused the British demand to hand back the kidnapped Confederate commissioners and disclaim the actions of their cruiser captain.

The Russians didn't give a fig about the Union, but did care about keeping ships in an ice free port in case Britain and France intervened in Poland's latest attempt to free herself from Tsarist tyranny. The story about them being there to help was entirely the invention of Thurlow Weed.

Why is there so much fascination with the British entering the ACW? It is just as likely the Martians would enter the war.

I suspect it has something to go with a sort of continuation of the American Revolution and War of 1812.
I don't think it's that much of a stretch. As stated above you at least had an excuse in the form of the Trent Affair.
Extremely unlikely I'll admit.
I'm not aware of the Yankees firing on a Martian ship,….
;)
Cheers

I think I would be happier saying "Hey! These figures would work pretty well for a British intervention in the ACW!" than "Hmmm. What else can I use these strange figures for?"

The Perrys are in the ideal position of not having to worry that no one makes the odd and strange figures they need for a future gaming campaign.
Should they ever develop an interest in the War of Jenkins Ear, maybe THEN we will see the left handed Bavarian Horse Grenadier Kettle Drummers.

Or the 3rd Connecticut Cuirassiers in the ACW.

"Hello Sam, did you see these? Can we get a Longstreet expansion for them please, pretty please?"

Yes, and… Perhaps….

ACW what if doesn't really grab me but I'm hoping this is a sign that Perry Miniatures will be doing a Crimean War range sometime in the future. Would love to see some Guards figures for Inkerman.

Odd…. I missed this thread.
Apologies. I just revived a long dead thread.

"Yes, and… Perhaps…."

Yeeee-hah! and… Hurrah!

Hi
Look like it's a goer.
The Perry brothers have released more WIP photos of the Brits