"China’s new ‘Black Hawk’ helicopter takes maiden flight" Topic

"A Chinese-made, People's Liberation Army helicopter successfully made its first flight on Monday, "filling a blank" in the military's arsenal, according to analysts.

The new type of medium-lift, general-purpose helicopter completed its test flight in an airport in the country's northeast on Monday morning, the official CCTV announced later Monday evening.

The report came after a photo of the aircraft emerged from popular domestic military forum cjdby.net, prompting a flurry of speculation from tech-savvy military enthusiasts about its potential performance and efficiency…"

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Hmmmm, that looks vaguely familiar.

So they copied the planform of a 30+ (nearly 40) year old design. Big honking deal… I swear, Mako, if the Chinese released a wheel, you'd accuse them of copying it….

At least they bought some originals

Its what the chinese do they copy tech which they steal or get for free from Isreal and the pack's…while we spent our future playing world cop they just kicked back and saved money and sweat along with the russians. Now they can spend like crazy and run the world for a while….

"I swear, Mako, if the Chinese released a wheel, you'd accuse them of copying it….".

Apparently, they have. See the Blackhawk copy – not sure what the Chinese call "theirs" – Redhawk, perhaps(?).

Their agents aren't scrambling all over the world, and via the internet, just stealing and cataloging Western technology, so they WON'T copy it, because they are such benevolent, good guys.

When they can't get it that way, they have Chinese citizens living here and abroad, set up dummy US or European companies to purchase it legally (since it can't legally be exported to China), and then they illegally export the stuff to their homeland. There was a recent article and sting operation about that in California, where they smuggled a bunch of radiation-shielded computer chips back home, because they don't have the ability to make them on their own.

Presumably, they are floating around, above your head, on one of their satellites, as I type this.

And then they end up with a nice military establishment that's 2-3 generations behind everyone else. That's smart….

And why reinvent the wheel? We (the US) certainly don't. Example: The Russians had the MLRS concept long before we did. We just took what works (from the Russian example) and designed our own. And the same thing with the IFV. They came up with the BMP and we followed with the Brad. (Ohhhhh… we 'copied' the Russians! Yeah, right….)

And about that 'copying tech'…. Technology is neutral, it has no nationality. If we came up with it, so can they. Its all about timing. And its been that way since the beginning of time…..

A Bradley doesn't look like a BMP

Its the CONCEPT, not the look…

I understand, but that helicopter LOOKS like a Blackhawk.

It IS a Blackhawk, with minor, cosmetic, and/or engine modifications to suit their production capabilities, I suspect.

20 – 30 year old tech is better than none, which is why they copy it.

the chines did purchase something like 10 or 12 black hawks in the early 80s before Tienanmen square and the accompanying embargo. given it's similarities and the age of the actual blackhawks they have i don't see why they wouldn't reverse engineer one.

Let me know when the Chinese turbines last 2000 hours between overhauls. (I'm willing to trust their airframes, but not their engines)

Let me know when one of their toys survives Christmas Day.

Yeah, I'm looking at you, Minecraft action figure!

Unfortunately, Lion, they don't need that kind of endurance. They just need to be able to reach Taiwan.

China has a serious investment in technological theft, Military and otherwise. It's clearly a copy of the Blackhawk. The reason they are copying it is to shortcut the cost of upgrading their own technology. Much of their ballistic missile tech is based on tech stolen from Nasa. Their newest generation of nuclear weapons is based on tech stolen from Lawrence Livermore by a Chinese spy ring.

The PRC copy a design of an item from another county ? Say it so !?!?!?

Unfortunately, Lion, they don't need that kind of endurance. They just need to be able to reach Taiwan.

For helicopters, 2000 hours TBO means an engine overhaul every 1-2 years.

You can't really do the training you need for an invasion of Taiwan if your helos are always in the shop getting their engines replaced.

Besides, PRC has really relaxed their stance towards Taiwan. Since all the Chinese think in long terms, taking 50 or 100 years to re-absorb Taiwan economically isn't a big deal to them.

It's called the CopyHawk, for obvious reasons. I would be more interested in seeing how good the crash survivability would be , but then again, they have so much infantry that the cannon fodder principle easily applies.