"A-36 Apache chin guns" Topic
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| Kaoschallenged | 17 Dec 2013 12:21 p.m. PST |
Now I have known about the A-36 Apache but never knew it had chin guns.I am aware of the nose cannon and the upper nose guns firing through the propeller. Are there any other single engined aircraft that used chin guns? Robert
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| Kaoschallenged | 17 Dec 2013 5:15 p.m. PST |
I have seen now that the RAF version didn't have the 2 .50 cal chin gins. Robert |
 Doms Decals  | 17 Dec 2013 6:13 p.m. PST |
Early Mustangs (RAF Mustang Mk.I) had chin guns too – they were an "inherited" fixture on the Apache, not specifically added for the ground attack role. (The original RAF Mustangs had a pair of chin .50 cals, another pair one in each wing, and four .30 cals, two in each wing.) |
| Doms Decals | 17 Dec 2013 7:00 p.m. PST |
I have seen now that the RAF version didn't have the 2 .50 cal chin gins.
Yes and no – there was no RAF version of the A-36. It gets confusing because for a while the Americans referred to the Mustang Ia (early RAF model with all machine gun armament removed, and replaced by 4x 20mm in the wings) as the Apache, rather than calling it a Mustang, which it actually was. Later on the "right" name got applied and it was simply referred to as the Mustang Ia, which is what it always had been – it was a fighter Mustang, without any of the ground attack modifications that made the A-36. To finish the confusion off, it seems that the A-36 may have never been called the Apache; rather the name seems to have been applied to it some time later, while in WW2 they were simply called Mustangs. (Although they tried to call them Invaders for a while, but couldn't make it stick.) Dom. Main source the excellent Joe Baugher: link |
| DBS303 | 18 Dec 2013 5:26 a.m. PST |
Returning to your original question, there were, I think, a few Soviet fighters which occasionally carried synchronised weapons in the lower cowling. The I-16 Type 29 springs to mind. Haven't got the definitive sources to hand, but I think possibly a late war Yak or Lavochkin variant may also have toyed with the idea. |
| Rocketeer | 18 Dec 2013 10:25 a.m. PST |
Look at the P-26 Peashooter. I had a model once that explained it all. On the floor of the cockpit, flanking the pilot, were two MGs. They were either both .30 guns or one was a .30 and the other a .50. This varied by submodel. Their positions meant the guns fired through the gaps between the radial engine cylinders, at roughly the 4 o'clock and 8 o'clock positions. I think that this qualifies as a chin mount! |
| Kaoschallenged | 18 Dec 2013 10:37 a.m. PST |
Thankd Dom. I always thought of them as Mustangs too. Robert |
| Robert Kennedy | 18 Dec 2013 7:32 p.m. PST |
Wasn't aware of the Rocketeer. Robert |
| Robert Kennedy | 20 Dec 2013 3:50 p.m. PST |
Good webpage here too,
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| Robert Kennedy | 28 Dec 2013 3:52 p.m. PST |
I hate it when the photo disappears.LOL. Robert
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