"Jegers, jęgers, jegere ect." Topic
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Gunfreak  | 05 Dec 2013 1:49 p.m. PST |
Why hunter and not jeger in english?
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| jpattern2 | 05 Dec 2013 1:58 p.m. PST |
From the Old English hunta, one who hunts.
In this case, Old English trumped Germanic. |
| Duc de Limbourg | 05 Dec 2013 3:15 p.m. PST |
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| gameorpaint | 05 Dec 2013 3:54 p.m. PST |
From the Old English hunta, one who hunts.In this case, Old English trumped Germanic. Old English is a Germanic language. English broke off the family tree though. I suspect it got waylaid by those pesky Normans, keeping it from getting influenced by the evolution of the others. |
 John the OFM | 05 Dec 2013 4:00 p.m. PST |
We COULD call them "chasseurs".  In fact, we often did. Some old accounts of battles speak of the Hessian "chasseurs".
One Loyalist unit was even called "Emerrich's Chasseurs". English will often steal words from other languages. However, we are not obliged to steal ALL words, nor are we required to use the ones we do steal correctly. |
| Mallen | 06 Dec 2013 4:18 a.m. PST |
Also, in the English of the period, "Hunter" was a type of horse. You'll never guess what it was originally used for. Also, there was a certain stylishness to using a foreign word to describe something new and exotic. Such as "uhlan," or for that matter, "hussar." |
| Jemima Fawr | 27 Feb 2014 2:35 a.m. PST |
Some terms do get mangled in translation, so it's often best to leave them in their original foreign form. For example, I've seen French 'Fusiliers' and 'Chasseurs' translated into English as 'Rifles', which of course is incorrect, as they were manifestly not armed with rifles (I've also seen 'Fusil' being translated as 'Rifle', which of course was correct in a 20th Century context, but notin an 18th Century context). I even saw 'Leapers' mentioned in one book and after some head-scratching realised that the author/editor had used the literal translation of 'Voltigeur'. |
| Gonefromhere | 27 Feb 2014 12:02 p.m. PST |
Re the OP …. Hunt (v.) – Old English huntian "chase game," related to hentan "to seize," from Proto-Germanic *huntojan (cf. Gothic hinžan "to seize, capture," Old High German hunda "booty"), from PIE *kend- link So maybe the question is actually why it is now Jäger in German, and not Hunter? |
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