"Tango, enough with the politics/current events links" Topic

Just Jack: point taken, understood. I just re-read your post and I over reacted with my response. Guess it's time for me step back a little from this.

So we have now escalated from "sycophants" to "imbeciles". Lovely.

And FYI, not that I give a damn whether or not you have ever read it, he HAS posted on what he games.
Find it yourself, I am in no mood to do your work for you.

This is why we can't have nice things.

BTW, Just Jack, do you have a problem with "What if Hitler had died in the Great War?" threads? There is no DIRECT gaming link there either.

Could I please just remind everyone that the one fact that was established during the last Anti Tango Witch hunt? (or was it the one before that? I forget!) Part of the dislike of my friend Armand's posts is that he seems non-responsive – bear in mind that English is not his first language, and whilst I expect its far better than my Spanish, he hails from Argentina and is probably communicating with us as well as he can…

And speaking personally, my TMP experience is the richer for it.

"…escalated from "sycophants" to "imbeciles". Lovely."

Yes, things are really getting out of hand. We might experience the first internet injury at any moment now.

The point of my childish name-calling was that McWong posted something, supporters of Tango made reasonable counterarguments, and then Tango's Bodyguard, AKA, Those That Remember the Night of the Internet Long Knives Two and One Half Years Ago, stepped in to take internet bullets for Tango and declare how anyone that disagreed with Tango's posts were enemies of mankind.

"…he HAS posted on what he games."
I don't believe you, but, for the sake of advancing the discussion, let the record show that Jack will stipulate that Tango, once upon a time, made one actual wargaming post, if you will stipulate it was followed by 20,000 non-wargaming posts, on a wargaming forum.

Let's talk about wargames, not cut and paste current events articles and figure advertisements.

EDIT: "Find it yourself, I am in no mood to do your work for you."
Actually, it's Tango's work, and you've proven you've got no problem doing his work for him. He hasn't even shown up for work today.

Sparker – Witch hunt? Really? I can appreciate that there are folks that like his posts, that's not the issue. You can talk to Tango outside of TMP; this is wargaming forum, to talk about wargaming stuff. There are plenty of non-wargaming forums to discuss non-wargaming stuff, I'm just asking that folks use them. There's even a Blue Fez right, right here on TMP, to use for non-wargaming stuff, please use it. I want to see the wargaming stuff, not have it pushed off the front page by non-wargaming stuff.

OFM asked something about "what if Hitler died in WW1?" I suppose if it's a one-off type of deal by someone that usually posts about wargaming, then I'd probably get over it.

If it was posted by someone that spams us 50 times a day, none of it about wargaming, and it was a link to an article asking the question, as opposed to something the guy was (or at least seemed to be) interested in and seeking answers to himself, I'd probably get tired of it.

Jack

To everyone, I had some time to step back and think a little. Funny how dinner and ice cream with your five year old can add some perspective.

First, I'd like to apologize, especially to John, for some of my remarks. I had originally put in my remark about John, then while editing my post, thought I removed it. Apparently I didn't, and rightly so, John called me out on it. Sorry about that. It was bovine related indeed.

I apologize for using the word sycophant. I stand by my statement that Tango's followers can be overzealous, as can some of his detractors. To Caesar, I make no apology. I was neither bullying or insulting Tango personally. I do have some strong words about his posting and contribution habits on TMP, about which I used colorful language, but I never personally called HIM anything, nor did I ever call for anything to be done to him or to have him treated differently. You sir, need to get some perspective and stop accusing people of things they haven't done. I haven't "ganged" up on him (am I am Army of One?), and his defenders are legion, so I hardly think he's a poor victim of my personal abuse here. To you I say get bent.

To the rest of you, I would just say that this whole thing has been frustrating.

Frustrating that a single member's posting habits and contributions have made TMP less enjoyable: for those of us who don't like what TMP is becoming, and for those of us who are tired of our whining.

Frustrating that nothing gets done about it or is resolved. For everyone involved.

Frustrating that every single time this happens, all we end up with is more of us stifling each other (I refuse), and less civil discourse about a member of the community who is causing division (of which discourse I admit to having made worse myself).

Frustrating that in all of this, the person we are discussing will not engage us, will not change in any way, will not acknowledge he is causing disord, will not even become a part of the discussion about HIM. This is no doubt frustrating to both his detractors AND his supporters because in the end, nothing changes except we get more mad at each other every time it comes up. He might as well be a brick wall. Even the most basic of suggestions to him personally have been ignored by him (why not post multiple links in a single post-a link dump if you will). In that way, he isn't contributing, he's automated.

This could have been solved a long time ago if Tango himself were open to discussion on the way he interacts here. Everyone else does and is engaged in the way they behave here (and often taking responsibility for it). Why can't he? What makes him so untouchable at this point? AT one point the discussion WAS civil. But nothing changed except factions formed and walls built.

In the end, I'm simply frustrated that a member of our community is so prolific in his activity here yet simultaneously so completely removed from it and so seemingly untouchable by any of us, even his supporters or the editor.

Doesn't anyone at least think that is a little weird? I can't think of any other forum or community I have been a part of with someone like this. Like I said, at least everyone KNEW what BME was causing (and he at least participated in it).

It feels like there is nothing that can be done either way. Regardless of your support or our derision, Tango is going to do what he does anyway because it just seems like that is all he does.

I'm sorry, but to me, it seems pretty shallow and automated a way to participate in a community of people that for all my complaints right here, right now, I enjoy the company of. Now, in and of itself, shallow participation like that that would be no big deal, but his method has caused a lot of division and for many of us, no appreciable gain in value to the community besides post count.

Anyway, I've fired enough electrons off about it.

It is what it is.

What I would like out of all of this is that a stifle of a particular user would prevent a thread created by them to appear on the front page. That seems easy.

EDIT: "Find it yourself, I am in no mood to do your work for you."
Actually, it's Tango's work, and you've proven you've got no problem doing his work for him. He hasn't even shown up for work today.

It IS the weekend, and maybe he is not on TMP today. Hard to believe, but possible.
As for "doing his work", YOU are the one with the accusation, and he has no need to defend himself from you.

And WHY should he show up here to answer the same tiresome attacks we see at least twice a month?

I will stipulate to nothing, and since you have called me a liar, you have forfeited the right to be reasoned with.

Keith, no problem.

"As for "doing his work", YOU are the one with the accusation, and he has no need to defend himself from you."

Granted, he doesn't have to do anything. All he does is spam this place with non-wargaming garbage.

The question is, why do you defend him?

"…the same tiresome attacks we see at least twice a month?"

Usually if something negative occurs that often, I take a look around to see if maybe it's me. For example: "Wow, I am incredibly interested in the stuff I post, but after enough people mentioned it, I realized this is a wargaming forum, and I'm not posting wargame stuff, no matter how much some people like it. I should probably find a forum that matches what I like to post."

"…you have forfeited the right to be reasoned with."
Good to go, it's probably for the best. Try as I might, I just wasn't catching the wisdom of your reasoning.

Jack

Ok, I have stated my thoughts before and shall refrain from repeating myself again. However, I am quite curious as why with 4 in house web folks nobody works on Sunday to react to this?

Surely someone must work on the weekend? I know Bill doesn't really do so. But some of the other 3 must.

Thanks,

John

Also, if the feature I requested above (stifling a user causing any thread they created to not appear on the home page) was implemented, I would definitely renew my supporting membership.

I would support that too. Strongly.
Maybe in TMP V4…

Gotta love some of the comments from some of the Pro-Tango crowd and Anti-Tango crowd. Robert

I have knew guys like tango before in another websites. They are just for the social recognition, desperatly seeking apreciation.

I remember one guy in a forum that used google images to flood every single thread with pages of pictures vaguely related. His only messages were "thanks" and, in the threads that he started, "what do you think abou it?" When nobody seemed to be interested.

Last time i checked tango,s post before i stiffled him, i suspect that he even didnt read most of them.

He was really anoying, (he still is), but i tried to ignore him (he was the first member i stiffled, and during a lot of time, the only one), untill one day i find hta he posted a lot of new threads in just four minutes, all in diferent boards. I cheked some of then, and Four Of them were links to models in the same blog, from a spanish modellers club.
Really? Do you find some interesting miniatures (well, at least interesting for you) in the same website, and you need to post each one of them on a single link, each one of them in a single board?

And what to say about those posts like "ten dishes that you never…ten hollywood actors that…"

again, once i checked two or three of them, and i found that they were all linked among them. So he found the first, posted it, checked the links at the end of the page, and posted them, too….all of course in his own posts in diferent boards.

I think that its very clear that his only goal is to colect thank yous. I even doubt that he is a wargamer at all, no matter what he says.

Tango only wants to be loved.

Saying all that, and that i am very tired of sorting his spam to check for wargame related posts from any tmp member, i must say that its not his fault that another members cant talk about politics without being extremly unpolite.

Well… I have finished to read all the threads.
Impossible to answer each one, but I would tried to put in here a resume.

a) I'm not Bill.
b) I'm a solo wargamer.
c) My scale is 1/72 (28mm too but few of them).
d) Period: Napoleonic.
e) Paint my own soldiers. I wargame a "fictional history" since 20 years ago, then I wrote a book of each battle (one chapter).
f) I wargame only one battle per year involving thousands of miniatures (20 to 35 thousands). It took me a whole month.
g) Last year I cannot wargame because of family problems.
h) I have posted pics of my wargames many years ago (when I began to write here). There are friends (spanish speaking) who have many of them in their links. But I don't consider it "mandatory" to be here. Or it is?.
i) Love the hobbie and what other people do/think about it.
j) I also had posted here a translation of my own history articles. Not many, but translation took a lot of time.
k) I had help many fellow members with their doubts or with other idioms. I'm happy making that.
l) More people than you imagin, are now visiting TMP because I post their works. In so many thousands of "Boys! See what this guys has made…" only in three ocations the "owners" of the pics/work made a complain to me. In the three ocations I never post anything from them again.
m) I have many good friends here and admiration from a lot of people because of what they paint/wargame/wrote here.
n) I neverI received any payment for my posts.
o) I don't enjoy to engage in discussions here. I don't like them ( I have wrote to many fellow members here to stop their struggle with other fellow members because it does not lead to anything good).
p) English is not my first idiom. It's not even my second one. My first idiom was french (brought up by my french grandmohter. When if you don't speak french, you don't eat!), then it was Italian (same case with my other grandmother who began to "share" my education), then it was spanish (were I was born), then it was english because of my grandfather), then I studied from myself portuguese, latin and a little of german.
But I always tried to answered most widely all the questions I've been asked by private messages.
q) Why I post so many threads?. Well… the answer is easy, because I like it. I like to share any historical/hobbie information I see. That's my crime?. Well, I think that I do not broke any rules here.
I undestand that many people see their own threads go down because of my contributions, but people… take into account that the "live" of a thread here is like a feather in the wind. And if your thread is quite interesting, be sure that it would not be going down, it would remain with many comments there. How many of yours threads have many comments?. I don't know, I hope all of yours, but if not, bad luck because with five of mine up to yours or any , your thread is "dead" anyway.
You miss old threads and want to see them and you cannot because I post my threads up to this one?
Not my problem. Ask to Bill for that. If I can, I would help you, but I think it's not fear to stop me posting because maybe in the future you are going to need to re-read an old thread!.
r)Is my way of posting totally different of other posters here? Of course. It was from my first post. Much people don't like it and you have a long list of them here, but… this broke the rules?. The answer is no. Sorry, but you have to live with that. Untill Bill decides otherwise.
s)How I can post so many post?. Well, that' what I enjoy.
t)I'm not anti-British, not Anti-American. I'm anti-jerks only.
u)Contribution or not to the hobbie?. I know the answer as you did. I think that my threads has realtionship with the hobbie or the Forum I wrote them.
v) Need more boobies?. I took it as a joke. Always I tried to post miniatures there that are realtioned with the hobbie. Not pics of naked woman. If you take time, see that I have more contributions in the Nap Media Forum that there.
w) How many fellow members has threads pointing his performace here in the last four years?. Maybe…Two, three…?. Threads like this one…(pointing Tango) I can count ten of them.
x) Who I "harm" with my contribution? Well, I can see some here and aphologies for that. But… I would continue with it. Sorry for that boys.It's not personal.
y) About those who "quit" the forum because of me… do you really think that Bill is so silly that he is going to loose his best members/contributors because of only one person and that this person could remain here?
Guys… see the long list of "locked accounts".!
z) Many thanks for all of you who support me here.
I would not stop posting.
Untill the authorities said the contrary.

Well, you have a whole alphabet here from my part to confirm that I'm not SPAM (smile).

Amicalement
Armand

I agree wholeheartedly with McWong.

There needs to be some limit here. The bulk of Tango's threads aren't miniatures-related. And the ones that are almost never generate any meaningful discussion. This is because Tango doesn't ask real questions, posit topics for discussion, or any of the other things that normally get a conversation going. In addition, viewers have little interest in replying to Tango's threads, because he almost never engages in meaningful dialogue. Worse still, the sheer volume of threads pushes real threads off the front page, thereby degrading the quality of discussion across the board.

I think the solution is a new web page, much like the Blue Fez, where Tango (and anyone else of similar inclination) can repost links to his hearts content, and his fan boys can view those links, without destroying TMP for the rest of us.

Where are the editors? It is a tragedy to watch this lynch mob.

KAM

Armand does not get it. Which is really unfortunate, because he is alienating people from this board. And the Editor doesn't get it, either. Which is also unfortunate, because the day they will see a decline in Supporting Members and visits, it will be too late to do anything.

Hah! I'm happy to see that Tango is not cowed by this nonsense. I like him all the more for standing up to it and not backing down.

Much to my dismay, this is one witch-hunt I've got to agree with (and I THINK this is the first witch hunt I've ever been in!).

Note that I am not at all interested in who is responsible for the issue – just that the issue occurs at all.

I have to admit that my enjoyment of TMP's front page has diminished because of this issue.

I presume the editors aren't interested because this issue does increase the post count, which is good for advertisers. And controversial threads like this one increase it even more (in the same way that the frequent Napoleonic rumbles are let run as long as possible).

Aw, Keith, so sweet.

I can't imagine how I got the wrong impression of you…

Hey, look at that. He lives!

Why I post so many threads?. Well… the answer is easy, because I like it. I like to share any historical/hobbie information I see. That's my crime?. Well, I think that I do not broke any rules here.

Perhaps no crime, but the way you go about it at times can be described as spamming. Not a crime, but by many internet standards seen as at least a little inconsiderate and rude.

I undestand that many people see their own threads go down because of my contributions, but people… take into account that the "live" of a thread here is like a feather in the wind.

Maybe you see yours as a feather in the wind. Others like to see theirs stay around on the main page to generate more discussion. The kind of engagement you admittedly do not like or enjoy, others do. Maybe have some consideration for them as well?

And if your thread is quite interesting, be sure that it would not be going down, it would remain with many comments there. How many of yours threads have many comments?. I don't know, I hope all of yours, but if not, bad luck because with five of mine up to yours or any , your thread is "dead" anyway.

How nice of you to declare other members threads dead. Threads go off the main page regardless of how many people post on them. They go off because new topics push them off the bottom of the list and onto their relevant board. You may not care, but that does affect the discussion for others because not everyone follows a thread off main page or they lose track of them. Again, perhaps some basic consideration for other members here.

You miss old threads and want to see them and you cannot because I post my threads up to this one?
Not my problem. Ask to Bill for that. If I can, I would help you, but I think it's not fear to stop me posting because maybe in the future you are going to need to re-read an old thread!

Not your problem? I see. Again, maybe some consideration for other members? It's this dismissive attitude you have to others that irritate some of us.

Is my way of posting totally different of other posters here? Of course. It was from my first post. Much people don't like it and you have a long list of them here, but… this broke the rules?. The answer is no. Sorry, but you have to live with that. Untill Bill decides otherwise.

Why the obstinance? Why are you incapable of compromise on this? Perhaps you didn't break the rules. But some of us have a problem with your method of posting and your inability to discuss a way of working it out. It's this attitude that causes some of us to think you enjoy the problems it causes and the attention.

How many fellow members has threads pointing his performace here in the last four years?. Maybe…Two, three…?. Threads like this one…(pointing Tango) I can count ten of them.

Maybe not complete threads pointing out the behavior of one person. But if you actually engaged in discussions on a daily basis in multiple threads you'd know that negotiations, compromise, and conflict and resolution is a constant part of discussions. Sometimes a person's behavior is discussed within a topic. Often it is worked out within the discussion itself and everyone goes on their merry way. That's part of normal internet discourse. Only the most problematic people get their own threads and they are always a disaster for everyone and bring the community down. But you wouldn't know that because you don't engage in those kinds of in thread discussions. I'll give the benefit of the doubt on your English language skills, but you aren't the only one here whose second language is English, and they engage in discussions as well.

Who I "harm" with my contribution? Well, I can see some here and aphologies for that. But… I would continue with it. Sorry for that boys.It's not personal.

You apologize, but you will do nothing to modify your behavior. It's not personal? Well, to some of us it is becoming personal. Lots of options have been offered that could allow you to post your stuff, yet do so in a way that allows for others to share the main page as well. Why is that not open for discussion by you? Is that how you always deal with people?

I would ask one last time: would it be possible for you to take some of the criticisms here into consideration and possibly make some changes in the way you post that both allows you to participate the way you like, but while still allowing others to enjoy their participation as well?

It doesn't even require Bill or some new snazzy forum system or rules. All it requires is you being willing to compromise like everyone else here does on a daily basis.

Heck, it's even easier than that.

Would you just consider posting multiple similar topic links into a single post? Organize it how you like. Maybe WWII links. Hobby news links. Modelling links. Modern topics, etc. etc.

One simple, easy solution to reduce the footprint you take up on the main page and allow others to use the space as well. That alone would solve many of the other problems as well.

If the answer is no, then I'm not sure what else there is to say.

I've been following this since it was posted last night (my time) and wondering whether I should add my opinion. This is clearly an issue that is dividing TMP.

As Tango has said that he does not care what the detractors say then it is up to the Editors to make a ruling. I agree as surely ten similar threads on Tangos postings should be enough to make a ruling one way or the other.

I personally stifle and then unstifle Tango on a regular basis as he does find some interesting stuff. But find the posting of news that I have already seen on Facebook and a Newsletter, and then Tango posts it and then it turns up as a News Item from very well known and Internet savy traders very annoying. I dont bother with the modern items and just skip past them.

Please concentrate on posting the rare items and leave the news to others. (meant as a polite request)

I always take into account criticisms my friend.

Some are in good manners, many of them not.
Some I accepted, other no.

Why I had to be here discussing whether my way of contributing to the forum is correct, like or dislike?
I'm not so important!

You have thousands of contributors here and I never see that any of them has to explain why or how they decided to contribute in the forum.

The matter is … you like or you don't like what I post.
Simple like that.
I respect if you don't like my threads and enjoyed it you do like them.

In no way mean to sound rude, but precisely this type of discussion are which I'm trying to avoid.

And as you point so many times the word "consideration", saying "Hey, look at that. He lives!" is not good in that way.
Not mention other "comments" about my person.

Let's stop please with these thread.

Amicalement
Armand

Perhaps you take them into account. But have you ever acted on any of them? I have never seen an effort on your part to meet anyone half way.

Part of the reason this is being discussed over and over again is because you have avoided it for so long. You don't own up to anything on your end of the interaction and have never made any effort to adapt.

My comment of "Hey look at that, he lives" was a joke.

These threads will probably continue because you seem to have no interest in doing anything else than what you already do that causes them. I will never start one about you, but I can see why they keep happening. If you want them to stop, it requires at least some effort on your part to actually work with the members of the community. Maybe you aren't that important, but not many others get their very own complaint threads. Ever think that it's not always everyone else and that it might occasionally be you, your behavior, and the reaction it causes in people?

I apologized here when I saw that my words had done harm (except to Caesar). I then attempted to offer a middle ground or some way of working things out. My comments were never about your person. They were always about your behavior. That's an important distinction, but often overlooked.

Last call for compromise from me. After this, I bow out and whatever happens to you with the way others treat you here I care not.

@Arteis

I presume the editors aren't interested because this issue does increase the post count, which is good for advertisers. And controversial threads like this one increase it even more

Thank you for that succinct summation. In which I wholeheartedly agree!

Good on you, Armand!

And thanks for making the considerable effort to defend yourself, I guess it took a while to put together, but you've expressed yourself just fine – those who are inclined to give you a fair shout will now understand why you post so briefly, those who aren't so inclined –

well who cares what they think!

Sparker, the point is that this issue (note – not the person) is destroying some/many people's enjoyment of TMP, even if it doesn't worry others. That, in itself, is enough of a problem that it should be a matter of some concern to the editors.

I think this issue is finally cruising to a crisis with this thread, as it is is bringing many people to the surface who until now have sat silently.

Sorry, I accidentally double-posted, so I deleted one of the above posts …

Vive Tango, vive Armand,
My stifle count has almost doubled, LMAO.
Strange thing I haven't stifled a single person.
Makes me support Tango even more.

Me too Robert – although my trifle count has trebled…funny thing that, free speech and all

Did I knock on my neighbours door and get flipped the bird?

You know there could have been a win-win from this.

@ Iron Ivan Keith, take a break! you are starting to sound like a complete !

Oh good grief Charlie Brown.

I don't read everything Armand posts – his 'topical' current stuff I've mostly already seen. If we want to get all 'posting police', then I'd like to see some really stringent policing of the guy who used to be paxx88 and who when pulled up on the marketplace board now posts just as much under several noms de guerre. I'd like to see the boobies board done away with. I'd like to see Connard Sage come back. I'd like Christmas on an effing stick.

Guess what? It ain't going to happen.

The disease on the Napoleonics discussion board has obviously spread. Armand is one of the relatively few non-Anglo posters on this site. I happen to think that overall it enriches the general environment. You don't agree? That's cool. It isn't a cause for pistols at ten paces.

Suffering succatash.

I will write this one post just to express my support for Tango. He is prolific, but certainly he brings many issues which otherwise many people here, including myself, would ignore. I find Tango is not responsible for things happening in the modern world, but he is a great help to let us know about them. i can't remember any post referring actual politics or the likes where he expressed a bad opinion, and I know I have known about many things thanks to his work posting those issues on TMP.

I, for one, find TMP more interesting because of Tango's contributions. I have bookmarked several sites he's posted about; I have known about miniatures because he's posted about them. I have known things about politic turmoil or naval technology because he's posted about it. For me, Tango has saved me a lot of time skipping through the net bringing to me information that I did not even know about, and which I possibly would have ignored was not for him posting it on TMP. He reminds me of a well known person on Emperor vs. Elector, Abdul666, author of the Monte-Cristo blog, who always posts on other people's blogs, more information regarding background etc. than gaming. He's a very enjoyable and kind fellow too.

I have never read or seen anything offensive posted by Tango, even when other people answered his threads in a somewhat or plainly offensive way. He's the very definition of civility,a dn it is clear that his attittude should be adopted by a good many posters here (not meant to be offensive, just a suggestion). I am no sycophant but I genuinely think Tango is productive to TMP and enjoy his many contributions. I am too a non English speaker (Catalan and Spanish are my mother languages), and understand it may be difficult to keep with long threads or many conversations.

Finally, I can't even start to imagine that there is a sound reason to start a thread like this one. The very concept behind it seems extremely childish to me. If you don't want to read Tango's posts, by God's sake don't do it. Just go to the boards section and visit them. If you just like to skim over the front page, don't complaint. The layout of TMP could simply have no posts on its front page. What then? Take a moment to think about, you may see this thread has no reason to exist but to be able to support Tango and point to how meaningless and arbitrary are these kind of attacks on his contributions on TMP.

Thank you Tango. Just be yourself and keep up your good work.

Well said Dogged.

What is turning me off TMP is this witch-hunt. Don't like Tango's posts? Don't read them! It's a simple as that. So it takes two extra clicks to open a thread & close it again. I didn't realise that they were in such short supply around here……

I've found a lot of interesting sites because of Tango's links & at least one manufacturer has publicly thanked him recently for increasing hits on his site after putting up a posting. I've certainly bought things myself after Tango's posted up links. He does a better PR job for manufacturers than the manufacturers themselves sometimes.

Viva Tango !! Keep posting.

I've just checked my stifles and I have gained 10 new ones.
Gee thanks guys !!
I have never stifled anybody, but I am envious of those who have gained many.
In the hope of gaining more. VIVA Tango !!!!

I presume the editors aren't interested because this issue does increase the post count, which is good for advertisers. And controversial threads like this one increase it even more

Echoed my sentiments exactly.

No member needs to defend their posts or right to post if they are not in violation of forum rules.

I've read enough of Armand's posts to know that he loves 1/72 plastic figs.

I've read enough of his posts to know that he will gladly provide any gamer first hand information about the war in the Falklands.

Armand is very passionate about this hobby and he expresses differently than most of us -- but he loves miniatures and toy soldiers.

Do I get tired of seeing all of his links sometimes? Yes, I do. I ignore a lot of his links because they don't interest me. That said, some of his posts do create discussion. While "he" may not come back other than to say 'glad you enjoyed it boys' the collective "we" have commented on or discussed what he posted.

I've read enough of his posts to know that he will gladly provide any gamer first hand information about the war in the Falklands.

Interesting. Was he in the Argentine armed forces in 1982 then?

I find Tango's spamming tiresome. It pushs topics off the front page with his need to increase his post count. It was one reason for not renewing my membership.

I find many of Tango01's posts helpful. I don't always comment but do save the links I find valuable. I have many of the boards turned off and only keep the periods I'm interested in on the front page.

This is how Armand enjoys his hobby far be it from me to tell him he can't do it.

I check TMP once a day and rarely do I have less than 2 days news on the front page.

Yes Armand is a friend from Cyberspace and I feel a need to show support.

I find maybe less than 10% of what Tango posts to be relevant or of interest, to be fair I would stiffle him if I could – nothing personally against him (or could be a her not sure) but the sheer volume of the stuff that's irrelevant or just cut and pasted from somewhere else, or had already been raised as a topic/news story or isn't gaming related is a lot, and you do have to wade through it. Some of it is useful, but to be honest, the few times I come here anymore, I go to look for new topics in the boards I frequent, the majority of it is Tango's threads, so I've probably missed some really good stuff. Still, I stick to LAF for my sci-fi stuff now for the most part, and for general news on figure releases, plus the community I stick to Frothers.

WooHoo!!! just picked up my first stifles….!!

I've picked up 9 (so far) simply for posting on this topic.

@Joes Shop…..I've just got 5 and they from this topic as well!