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RelliK27 Nov 2013 3:25 p.m. PST

What number helmet do you like.

Quite impressed by these, the 2500 Euro Italo Chorinthian looks almost too cheap.

I like these:

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Which way is the front for this one below??? I reluctantly think its to the left using the flared brim as a visor only because the plume or feather holder is near perpendicular to the helmets rim. Um' I change my mind, if its a horse hair plume you'll want it leaning away from the face, so now I think the front is to the right… also the flare would be at the back to cover the neck a bit.

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This is the auction link:
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Best,

Mike

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP27 Nov 2013 4:01 p.m. PST

Very neat. But how would a solider see out of the Corinthian helmet at the top?

Coelacanth27 Nov 2013 4:16 p.m. PST

Thanks for a really cool post! It's all a bit beyond my current price range…

[H]ow would a solider see out of the Corinthian helmet at the top?

It's an early (but far from the last) example of a once-useful design feature becoming vestigial over time. So, basically, the goggles do nothing.

Ron

Pattus Magnus27 Nov 2013 4:18 p.m. PST

nnascati – The eye-holes on that version are strictly decorative – the helmet was basically a cap and not designed to be pulled forward over the face. They were (I think) a Roman design and not greek at all. Maybe a kind of retro-nostalgia thing on the part of the romans.

What I'm curious about is how many of that helmet type have been found – was it a 1-off freak that figure designers over-represent in sculpts or were they an actual style for a period of time?

Who asked this joker27 Nov 2013 5:34 p.m. PST

The first helmet is often associated with the Triari by miniatures sculptors. As others say, the eye holes are purely decorative.

The second is an Attic style helmet.

The third was probably associated with hoplites of around 350bc. Open face and all.

The 4th is a Pilos. A cheap helmet for young warriors. Miniature sculptors associate this one with Spartans.

The last helmet was popular with Punic and Roman infantry during the Punic wars. The front is to the right.

LorenzoMele27 Nov 2013 6:59 p.m. PST

I wonder how the owners got them.

RelliK27 Nov 2013 8:34 p.m. PST

They were from highlanders. Imagine if any of those roman helmets were at Cannae?

Temporary like Achilles27 Nov 2013 9:02 p.m. PST

I always wonder if these are real or not. Without being an expert, how could you tell?

thabear27 Nov 2013 9:19 p.m. PST

Great pictures , thankyou

RelliK27 Nov 2013 10:08 p.m. PST

Oddly enough the top helmet with cheak guards would be the most safe helmet to wear as the angle of the helmet to the enemy would be best for deflecting projectiles and blows. Even with the two fake eye holes. The italo Corinthian helmet is allot more similar to the plain bucket style helmets the officers at this time used to wear. Just my take. The monte fortino helmets of course won out in popularity later on with Rome. Perhaps ease of manufacture was worth any small offset of protection.

Temporary like Achilles27 Nov 2013 10:16 p.m. PST

By real I mean 'authentic', just to clarify!

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