"Corps Command Rules" Topic

After a very long absence (a quarter of a century) I'm hoping to return to Napoleonic wargaming (only WWII and ACW recently). The big appeal of Napoleonics to me are the bigger battles of one or more corps per side.

I do not want to return to my own 'old school' type rules or WRG rules. I have been trawling the internet for some time looking for a suitable set of rules. Rules like Volley & Bayonet or Grande Armee appear too abstract for me, (e.g. I have difficulty imagining how one block of units can be a road column, attack column, line square, etc. without some change in appearance). Many other rules seem more suited to skirmish or division level rules.

The rules Corps Command by Manny Granillo (3rd Edition) seem suitable based on the TMP overview of an older edition: the fact that there is an additional book to cover campaigns for those rules is also appealing. However, I can't find any reviews of the rules! They may simply not suit the playing style of many which is not a problem for me as since I moved to a smallish coastal town my wargaming is solo. I should have an opportunity to play against opponents sometime in the New Year although it is likely most wargaming will still be solo.

I'm especially interested in the sequence of play for Corps Command as well as its CCC (command, control and communication. Can anyone who has played these rules help me with a review?

There seems to be a YAHOO group for Corps Command. Where can one buy them in Europe ?

I've applied to join the Yahoo group but would still like other opinions on the sequence of play and CCC for Corps Command.

I have all three of these rulesets, and in fact I was reading Corp command on the bog last night…… :(

Frankly, its not a patch on Grand Armee imho, and for both the production value and rule content i would say it is seriously overpriced. I would rate it third in the list of rules you are looking at. Have you seen Age of Eagles btw? A seriously good rule set. Ive also had a couple of games of Napoleons Battles recently, which had all the columns and square etc formations you might want. Not a quick rule set, but quite decent – esp for solo play – and available on Ebay for just a coupla quid.

Your view may vary of course, but thats how I see it.

Le Feu Sacre (version 3) by TFL is playable at the level you're looking for.

1815Guy:
What exactly is wrong/poor about Corps Command?

Also, although I thought about Age of Eagles I was a little concerned about how well a Fire and Fury system(which I use for ACW) would translate to Napoleonics (even though I subscribe to the Paddy Griffith view that ACW is more Napoleonic than WWI).

John Thomas8: I'll have another look at Le Feu Sacre. I'd removed it from consideration earlier (I can't recall why) as I had a long list to start.

Humbly suggest "March Attack" by Crusader Publishing. Fast, multiple Corps a side no problem. And available instantly as a PDF.

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And LFS 3 is excellent as well.

I don't know anything about Corps Command, sorry.

I'd also naturally have to recommend Polemos – Marechal d'Empire. They are designed to handle multiple corps per side, with a division being the basic unit of manouvre.

Available as hard copy or instant download from wargames vault link

We use WRGs Corp de Army at our club (LWA), they are no longer in print.

If you are interested we can probably drum you up a set.

They are a battalion unit size with a clever order changing, command and control system.
It works well with up to 3 corp a side,

I have to say the games we play do look right.

Oi Mac! I would normally say "Dont go drummin' up a set! They are still in copyright!"

However as I am still letting people download them for free while I work on an authorised second edition it would'nt make much sense!

Download last version (unofficial Kiwi edition) here

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:)

Qaama – sorry I cant go in to more detail, but you will probably find a detailed review of all the sets on the web. Deep fried Happy Mice usually does a good job with rules.

But why not get a few sets of rules and form your own opinion? Compared to the cost of a wargames army and given all the time you invest in researching, painting and basing the figures surely £15.00 GBP-£25 isnt too much to invest in making a rules choice? Even the worst rules have some redeeming features that make you think about the period more. Except Chipco Napoleonics.IMHO they have no redeeming features at all and a decade later I still cant believe I let myself be persuaded to buy the bloody things and pay good money out on em!

Hmmmm.

No review of Corps Command at Deep Fried Happy Mice (which was one of my early ports of call). I just can't seem to find reviews of Corps Command anywhere which is a little concerning.

I'm revisiting Le Feu Sacre: I don't really know why I discarded it in the first place (probably because I associate TFL with more skirmish level rules). Then, if I want to go way beyond corps level, I could shift to these rules link although when I move to a campaign I'll probably use a 'Henry Hyde' type system as he proposed in his magazine and book.

Thanks for the suggestions.

Just to add to the lack of concrete information…

I have both volumes of the rules and have read them.

They didn't inspire me to play them. That is a good, nor bad, comment on the rules. It is what it is.

However the rules use battalion units and so in that respect La Salle, my own Musket and Shakos, and Ganesha's Drums & Shakos Large Battles would be comparable.

Age of Eagles is a great game, however like Grande Armee and Volley and Bayont the units are brigades and so the rules are pitched at a different level of play.

I quite enjoy Paddy Griffith's Napoleonic Wargaming for Fun. It contains seven scales of play, four of which use miniatures, the Skirmish, Brigade, Divisional, and Army level game. The last two of which use battalions as units. Well worth a look and a good read in any event.

Bob

Hi 1815 Guy

Thanks for that,
I would not wish to sued,

I hope things are going well with the 2nd edition.

Mac

:) @ Mac

We just send Ron and Ron around Mac!!! :)

:)@ 1815 Guy

O no not "The Management":)

CORPS COMMAND IV is available and there is a FACEBOOK group for it as well as a Forum and free scenarios at CORPSCOMMAND@hopliteresearchgames.groups.io

The rules are available from onmilitarymatters.com, caliverbooks.com, nobleknightgames.com, or from the publisher's online store at panzerkorps.com

There is a new CORPS COMMAND CAMPAIGNS Fourth Edition as well just released.