"10mm WW2 infantry?" Topic

What 10mm ww2 infantry has the best detail?

I have some from both Pendraken and Wargames South. The detail is quite fine for 10mm. If you want more detail go up a size.

They are both quite similar and compatible in size. Their vehicles are slightly different though.

I've got quite a bit of Pendraken and Minifigs, both WWII and Modern. What are you looking for? I might have some pics for you to take a look at.

Having said that, I have no experience with Wargames South, Magister Militum, Perrin, or Pithead, all of whom make WWII in 10mm.

V/R,
Jack

Detail or proportions? I think that Minifigs are outstanding too.

I sculpted a lovely range some years back & then a novice mlouldmaker destroyed them all in the mould. But they would have been exactly what you are looking for. ;)

In my opinion, the manufacturers of infantry divide into two groups that are often not very compatable, the slim and the chunky.

The Slim:
Minifigs are probably the truest to scale. By comparison to others, a bit smaller/slimmer.

Perin slightly smaller than minifigs, but compatable.

The Chunky:

Wargames South, for my taste, are not exciting, nor do they make much of a range of infantry.

Pithead is okay.

Magister Militum, big by comparison and limited selection.

Pendraken, wide selection and good detail.

So, it depends on the look you like. For those liking the slim look, Minifig & Perrin are both good. For those liking a bigger figure, Pendraken is the best.

Don't think you need to get vehicles from the same manufacturer as you get the infantry. From biggest to smallest, the vehicles are: Wargames South (beautiful but very expensive & not compatable with others due to size), Pithead, Pendraken, Minifigs, Perin. I think Pithead makes the best vehicles and would buy exclusively from them unless there was something they didn't make, in which case I would probably go with Pendraken next.

Wargames South vehicles do have the advantage of matching in size to many of the pre-painted lines out there such as Dragon CanDo, World Tank Museum and Popy to mention a few. The issue is that you have scales from 1/144th to 1/160th represented by the manufacturers mentioned here. I do find Pithead will fit in with Wargames South as long as you don't buy the same model (i.e. Pz V) from both.

Very nice rundown on the infantry and compatibility Light Horseman!

Dude, you're procrastinating! You need to pick a scale and just go for it.

Irregular do a small range of nicely proportioned 10mm WWII

LOL @ Alex

You are so right Alex! I have, it's 10mm all the way :)

Thanks for the infantry run down folks.

Time to build my terrain and get this going!

Here´s another vote for Pendraken. Great service too.

I've got pictures of pretty much all of them, including some comparison shots in the 10mm figure gallery on my website.

It's searchable, so you can look for manufacturers, or just "infantry" etc

tim

Madaxeman……I clicked on the "comparison" album, but there is no indication as to what manufacturers your comparing in the photos.

yeah – just saw that. Somehow the descriptions seem to have fallen off the page for each photo. The search function still seems to work though, so they are clearly still there somewhere…

I'll try and have a fiddle around under the hood and see if I can get it back…

aaah – should be sorted now

(wipes oil from fingers with rag)

tim

Thanks Tim!!

yea, page is borked

Tah Dah!

as if by magic….

Miniature figurines take some beating…!

Gents,
Minifigs are 12mm not 10mm. that is 1/144. That is the same scale as the Can-do ready painted vehicals. Many folk use 12mm figs with 10mm vehicals. Pendragon 10mm match 12mm minifigs well. You will love this scale for larger battles (company and above) where vehicals dominate. The quality of the pre-painted stuff is on the part with many of its larger scale counterparts.

We have found ways of doing urban but to get the figures between even vaugely relisticly spaced houses you need some way of moveing them out the way and then replaceing them EXACTLY in the same place. A few millimetres adrift in this gane is a lot and can spoil a game very quickly.

UshCha, 10mm is only a notional "scale", a bit like 25mm is actually 28mm and 15mm figures are generally 18mm tall.
The biggest 10mm WW2 manufacturers, Pithead, Pendraken and Minifigs, all make figures that are 11.5mm tall. Its the vehicles that are different. Pithead are the largest with Minifigs slightly smaller and Pendraken smaller still. None of these companies models are as big as 1/144 scale but Pithead is closest at 1/150 scale. I cannot speak for Wargames South or Perrin miniatures however as I don't own any of their infantry.

Wargamer6 relates well on the height differences of 10-12mm figures (roughly ranging around a 160th-144th model scale).

The mounting footprint of different infantry figures on an infantry base for 10-12mm wargame figures relates less to differences in the heights of the miniatures themselves – with most of these figures able to be group-mounted together on similar size game stands.

It does matter what stand sizes you adopt from the start, to fit these within the terrain you use. This is a holistic approach of designing terrain and miniatures to work together as a system.

I use areas-style mats for most of my gaming at the 1/144th scale.

The mat areas have a stated stand capacity (maximums are known), that relates directly to the ground scale of the game, and then enforces combat frontages based on the game areas, which automatically manage realistic deployment capacities in an area (no jamming in as many models and stands as can stacked fender to fender, or bases piled together).

Game stands will fit into areas, and amongst terrain pieces. Players never need to wonder if their maneuver elements might fit into an area, they will, it's part of the design, and the rules integrate with the terrain, the ground scale, weapons ranges, and the unit frontages.

Examples of boards for the 1/144th scale (infantry and weapons stands mounting various manufactures' 10mm figures) -

The same terrain/unit stands integration here, but down to 3mm minis stands -

Of course, this is the system I've developed for my WW2 and Moderns gaming with 3-12mm miniatures. It does demonstrate though, how to integrate game models, figure stands, and terrain to all seamlessly work together.

Another pic from TMP here (of last week's Medieval Masters game), which uses a square grid areas system, like the To The Strongest, or Strength and Honour rules. The grid corners are barely perceptible at photo-length (tufts), but enough for the players to use, and manages unit movement, missile ranges, facing changes, w/o rulers, the unit stands fit the battle spaces, and difficult or area-terrain is easily defined on-board -

Area mats or gridded boards aren't for everyone, or every warfare period. A lot depends on how you make the grid imperceptible, and therefore visually acceptable.

However, the same concept of area terrain can be used for free-form game boards – as your figure stands will still need to fit within the terrain they're meant to populate.

To b e honest 12mm Minifigs are not great, They most certaily are bigger than 10mm but so Chunky they would never fit in a 1/144 jeep.

DXetail is a very difficult issue at 10mm to 12mm(1/144). It has to be unrealistic to see it. Which do you want scale figures or Circus freaks. Me I go for real scale 1/144, That way they look like thsy can fit in their vehicles.

Bases I see no need to set a serious set value. Tanks less than 40m apart are dead ducks, hit one and the rest are at 100% hit rate. Infantry, use real scale artillery and too close and they are all dead like in the real world. Plus there frontage is too small so vulnerable to flanking fire or fixed line fire. Decent rules should allow players to space as they see fit and gain the advantages and penalties of their choice.

In offensive missions, it's enemy artillery fire that causes the greatest need to extend combat frontages, and is where squad stands [or if using fire team bases] need to be dispersed in-game.

In defensive deployment, it's the terrain to be held with the forces available that dictates deployment densities…..and if participants are mindful of maintaining a reserve (something very often over-looked).

The venerable Minifigs WW2 infantry aren't compatible with today's 1/144th scale figs like those from Victrix.