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Yesthatphil11 Nov 2013 1:40 p.m. PST

picture

Car in the foreground, of course …

The picture is filed as of the 5th SS Mot/Pz Division Wiking.

I have some idea about the model of the car but I'd like a certain identification. Can you help?

Thanks

Phil

jaxartes Inactive Member11 Nov 2013 1:54 p.m. PST

Looks like a Simca 5 but not sure? Have a look at this link:

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HistoryPhD Inactive Member11 Nov 2013 2:16 p.m. PST

The shape doesn't seem right for a Simca. And it doesn't have the sloping radiator grill

DyeHard11 Nov 2013 2:44 p.m. PST

I think it is a Cabriolet.
Perhaps a Praga Lady?

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2013 3:27 p.m. PST

Very close, but not quite right for the Mercedes 170CV, BMW 327.

DyeHard11 Nov 2013 3:46 p.m. PST

It has suicide doors. (Door handle in front)

I do not think either Mercedes or the BMW 327 has that.
Also the BMW I see have integrated headlights, The photo looks like lamps attached to the cowl sides.

whoa Mohamed Inactive Member11 Nov 2013 3:52 p.m. PST

Either a 37 Cab or 37 opel olympus…my guess…..Mikey

DyeHard11 Nov 2013 4:07 p.m. PST

The 1937 Opel Olympia has integrated headlights and does not have a split front window. Nor does it have the suicide doors. Closer to Opel Super 6. (But not)

Personal logo Morning Scout Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2013 4:45 p.m. PST

Looks like It could be a 1930's Citroen Cabriolet, maybe a Traction Avant! But the front window is off

deephorse11 Nov 2013 5:30 p.m. PST

BMW 326 Cabriolet.

Personal logo Morning Scout Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2013 5:33 p.m. PST

The split window says BMW

Yesthatphil11 Nov 2013 5:46 p.m. PST

Lots of great suggestions … I'm grateful for the help with this.

The last 3 contributions mirror my own thinking – I can't quite see enough of the car to be sure (and not everything in this period can be assumed to be bog standard).

Inevitably, I'm using the photo as the basis for a model (so filling in the missing angles and details would be a great help) …

Phil

DyeHard11 Nov 2013 6:10 p.m. PST

I think DeepHorse has hit it on the nose.

I changed to a better monitor and I concure, a BMW 326.

Other than the trim stripe it matches this photo very well:

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Now that I see the grill more clearly, it is a BMW, and the little extra edge on the fenders is a match!

DyeHard11 Nov 2013 6:12 p.m. PST

Damn nice Staff Car!

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2013 6:25 p.m. PST

Found this for a comparison pic: link

britman14625 Inactive Member15 Nov 2013 6:03 a.m. PST

Yeah it is a Bmw alright.
May Uncle Bill had one in England in the 1950's.

Cheers All

Yesthatphil02 Dec 2013 11:02 a.m. PST

Just a post script …

I chopped up a QRF Soviet armored car and filed down the armour. Although mocking it up with plasticine convinced me I could do a good impression of the car in the picture, adding some figures made me decide to go with an open top.

picture

There are some similarities, and I certainly found the inputs here very useful in identifying what I wanted to do.

As ever in wargaming, of course … things get modified during the process (so my winter BMW staff car with roof up became a Summer generic Staff Car with roof down) but the thought process is as important as the model sometimes wink

Phil
There are some more pictures currently top feature on P.B.Eye-Candy/Modelling

tuscaloosa Inactive Member02 Dec 2013 4:13 p.m. PST

very nice.

Lion in the Stars02 Dec 2013 6:56 p.m. PST

Nice conversion, Phil!

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