"Confederation of the Rhine units in Spain" Topic

The new Perry releases have got me wondering where I can get a decent listing of Rhinebund units that fought in Spain and when.

Also, which units used French uniform at one time or another.

The Perry figures certainly cover a lot of bases but I'm aware they don't include some nations that were in Spain, Hesse-Darmstadt for example (I think they wore French uniform anyway).

I'm aware of the existence of one or more combined Regiments/Battalions – a guide to when a from whom these were formed would also be good.

Which Rhinebund units are you after Trajanus?

To me the whole point of painting Confederation regiments is because I'm bored of painting French. Unless you wanted to know so you could avoid them…

For Hesse-Darmstadt in 1809 or 1810 they were issued French style shako with white metal plate bearing the Hessian rampant Lion and red centre cockade. Before this a Bicorne was worn. Blue jacket with yellow cuffs and lapels with red turnbacks. A colourful unit!

Jack Gill published a good history of the Rhinebund units in Spain in his "Vermin, Scorpions and Mosquitoes".

This was published as a chapter in "The Peninsular War: Aspects of the Struggle for the Iberian Peninsula" – general editor – Ian Fletcher – published 1998.

Copies can be obtained on Amazon.

Rod

Here's a few leads:

link

link
(not sure this is working – I can't get to it from work, but then they block all sorts of random websites)

And I think there's some organizational information on the Perry web site, is there not?

Which Rhinebund units are you after Trajanus?

Don't know that's the point! :o) Whichever ones served in Spain.

Thanks for the book lead Rod – not heard of that one.

Baden: 4th Infantry
Berg: 1st and 2nd Infantry, 1st Chasseurs a Cheval
Hesse-Darmstadt: Regiment Gross und Erbprinz
Kingdom of Holland: 3rd Hussars, 1/2nd Line, 2/4th Line
2nd Nassau or 1st CoR Infantry
1st Nassau or 2nd Cor Infantry + contingents from Isenburg-Birstein, Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen & Hohenzollern-Hechingen
Wurzburg or 3rd Cor Infantry
4th CoR Infantry – contingents from Sachsen-Gotha, Sachsen-Koburg, Sachsen-Meiningen, Sachsen-Weimar, Sachsen-Hildburghausen
5th CoR Infantry – Anhalt-Lippe
6th CoR Infantry – Reuss, Schwarzburg, Waldeck
Frankfurt Battalion
Bataillon des Princes – Schwarzburg, Lippe, Reuss, Waldeck
Nassau Reitende Jager (Nassau Mounted Jager)
Westphalia: 2nd Line, 3rd Line, 4th Line, 1st Light, 1st Chevau-leger

Hope this helps

Regards

Thanks for that.

I assume that the Westphalians would be dressed in French style uniform but white, as per Central Europe?

Not Confederation, but if you want some variety in your 'French' army, don't forget the Regiment Irlandaise (2 bttn), the Hanoverian Legion (2 bttn plus chasseurs), the Swiss regiments and the Regt de Prusse. (There may be others)

Pete

The biggest problem with the multi contingent Regiments will be representing a correct looking proportion of each uniform.

BTW: Forgot to ask as and where these were single or multiple battalion regiments?

All

The Perry CofR troops look fantastic and will be a great addition to any collection. At the moment I'm committed with a number of projects, including a Waterloo re-fight for 2015, Peninsular Spanish and 1813-15 Prussians so my CofR will have to wait!

In my "French" army I'm currently rocking Neapolitans and Isembourg at the moment

Next I've got the Irish Legion planned and some Swiss

Thanks

F

Book recommended by Rod purchased. Had to go for a used copy as the Amazon price for new was a bit steep on my pension!!

Baden: 2 Bns
Berg: 3 Bns each by establishment, perhaps only 2 from each Regt sent to Spain?
Hesse-Darmstadt: 2 Bns
Kingdom of Holland: 1 Bn from each Regt, 3 Sqns of Hussars
2nd Nassau or 1st CoR Infantry: 2 Bns
1st Nassau or 2nd Cor Infantry + contingents from Isenburg-Birstein, Hohenzollern-Sigmaringen & Hohenzollern-Hechingen: 2 Bns
Wurzburg or 3rd Cor Infantry: 2 Bns
4th CoR Infantry – contingents from Sachsen-Gotha, Sachsen-Koburg, Sachsen-Meiningen, Sachsen-Weimar, Sachsen-Hildburghausen: 3 Bns, 3rd Bn a LtBn, no elite coys
5th CoR Infantry – Anhalt-Lippe: 2 Bns(1st from Anhalt principalities, 2nd from Lippe ones)
6th CoR Infantry – Reuss, Schwarzburg, Waldeck: 2 Bns (2nd Bn from Reuss and Waldeck)
Frankfurt Battalion: 1 Bn
Bataillon des Princes – Schwarzburg, Lippe, Reuss, Waldeck: 1 Bn
Nassau Reitende Jager (Nassau Mounted Jager): 2 Sqns
Westphalia: 2nd Line, 3rd Line, 4th Line, 1st Light, 1st Chevau-leger 2 Bns ea. for the Line, 1 Bn for the Light, 4 Sqns for the Light Horse

the 4th had three different uniforms, 5th two different, 6th two different, bth des princes 5 different……from memory

cheers
Matt