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Porkmann05 Nov 2013 10:47 a.m. PST

I have read that some States continued using the former up until the 17-teens and latter until the 1730s did they hang on any longer anywhere in Europe?

Repiqueone05 Nov 2013 11:30 a.m. PST

If they did it would be the Nordic and Russian armies, most likely the latter.

Daniel S05 Nov 2013 2:35 p.m. PST

Sweden never had the plug bayonet to begin with and halted production of matchlocks in 1695. By 1704 the annual production of flintlock muskets was 12000 each year but as late as 1708 some garrision units in Sweden and Finland used matchlocks. (Flintlocks were sent to the frontline units first). But when the Danes invaded Sweden in 1709 all matchlocks were returned to storage and the units were issued with new flintlocks.

Denmark-Norway seem to have completly switched to flintlocks by 1700, at least among the regulars. By the end of the GNW all 3 countries had flintlocks only.

spontoon05 Nov 2013 5:30 p.m. PST

Of course Sweden, and maybe Denmark, had their own version of flintlock. Sometimes called a Baltic lock.

Daniel S06 Nov 2013 4:24 a.m. PST

Indeed but the "Baltic lock" was a 16th Century design which has more in common with the Snaphaunce than with the "modern" flintlock used in the 18th Century.

Sweden abandoned military use of the Baltic lock in the early 17th C in favour of the more effective and reliable matchlock. It was still common on locally made civilian firearms though and could be found well into the 18th C on hunting rifles.

Porkmann06 Nov 2013 7:59 p.m. PST

Interesting thank you. I wondered if theuy could be found on the military borders being used by "Grenzers"…

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