| donlowry | 30 Oct 2013 4:57 p.m. PST |
What color (excuse me, colour) would the Valentines sent to the USSR from the UK and Canada have been painted? I doubt that the Soviets bothered to repaint them, but I'm not sure what colors were in use by UK/Commonwealth armour at the time -- especially interested in the first few batches, sent in '42. Bronze green? That brownish colour they used for a while? |
| jekinder6 | 30 Oct 2013 6:08 p.m. PST |
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| (Stolen Name) | 30 Oct 2013 7:08 p.m. PST |
That brownish colour they used for a while? Though mine have a green camo on it for kicks – bit like the BF ones |
| donlowry | 31 Oct 2013 9:55 a.m. PST |
Thanks, jekinder6. I'd forgotten that that site covers Lend-Lease equipment! So, what would you call that color? Bronze green? |
| Martin Rapier | 31 Oct 2013 1:09 p.m. PST |
As far as I cna see all the lend lease tanks on that site are drawn in the same colour, a drab grey green, which looks suspiciously like unfaded OD. British tanks would have been the same colour as they left the factory, which for the bulk of them given the time periods involved would indeed have been SCC2 (brown), however I usually paint mine green as they just look wrong otherwise. Not sure what colour Canadian Valentines were though. |
| Martin Rapier | 31 Oct 2013 1:18 p.m. PST |
Here is MIke Starners article of British AFV camo through the war. link |
| Black Bull | 31 Oct 2013 1:22 p.m. PST |
That colour was Khaki Green No3 use was discontinued early – mid 1942 or until stocks were used up.
That "brownish colour" was SCC 2 brown started to be used late 1941 became the official standard camo colour in may 1942.
Soviets preferred khaki green but they did receive plenty of SCC 2.
By mid 1941 the 2 tone green patterning had gone to be replaced by khaki green 3 and either Dark Tarmac No4 or SCC 1A dark brown, for may 1942 replace No3 with SCC 2. |
| (Stolen Name) | 31 Oct 2013 5:05 p.m. PST |
Mines base don this image from BF
other pictures here
don't know if it ws real but looks good IMHO and a nice change for m all that green  |
| (Stolen Name) | 31 Oct 2013 5:09 p.m. PST |
Also has anyone info in this Val with AAMG?
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| JD Lee | 31 Oct 2013 5:29 p.m. PST |
There were some that were similar to a chocolate brown. |
| Etranger | 31 Oct 2013 5:57 p.m. PST |
TT – that's a standard mounting for the Bren. It wasn't very popular or effective. Variously known as the Gallows or Motley mounting, there were a number of variations on a theme. Basically they resembled an anglepoise lamp! The Bren has the 100 round AA drum. |
 Mserafin  | 31 Oct 2013 7:17 p.m. PST |
TT, What is the provenance of that last Valentine? New Zealander? |
| (Stolen Name) | 31 Oct 2013 8:19 p.m. PST |
Not sure Mserafin – found it on a google image search while looking for como'd Vals and thought the AAMG was interesting as I had not heard of them being in use before |
| Martin Rapier | 01 Nov 2013 4:46 a.m. PST |
As above, it is a Bren with AA drum mag. They were used on Churchills as well (and maybe some other British tanks?). Neither very effective nor popular but better than nothing when faced with the might of the Luftwaffe. |
| Etranger | 01 Nov 2013 8:02 p.m. PST |
Martin, I've seen one on a Crusader & also on some of the various British scout cars of the midwar period. |
has been watching some documentaries lately set in the Western Desert, and was inspired to create this...
