"Controversial Eye And Triangle (Pyramid) Symbol?" Topic

Has anyone used it in their terrain or when making decals for figures or vehicles?

I'm really thinking of somehow embossing this one here over my extruded polystyrene (blue and pink foam) corridor doorways:

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Thoughts?

Dan

Use oyumaru to make a texture stamp?

Oyumaru?

Dan

I think you can get it re-branded from CMoN as Instamold, but you can find it cheaper as oyumaru.

This is a decent description, if you aren't familiar with instamold.

Whoops. Thanks, Terrement. Intended to post a link.

Add a line bisecting it vertically, and it's the Deathly Hallows symbol from Harry Potter.

This is what I was initially thinking of using, until my wife reminded me that is too similar to the symbol used by Alcoholics Anonymous:

This looks cool too, but looks a bit too much like the symbol for Earth on Stargate:

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This one too:

Right?

Dan

Maybe this one?

harry potter deathly hallows

Or this:

Hmm …

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LOL. Is that part of some sort of conspiracy, to avoid discussing "Illuminati" symbols?

Dan

Ok, if I was going to emboss this one onto extruded polystyrene (blue or pink foam), would you suggest stamping the foam using some sort of circular metal tube surrounded by a triangular one?

If so, where could I get a triangular metal tube that small (about 5mm per side)?

Thanks,

Dan

Looks like Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls. Best show on TV (cartoon wise!)

You might look at New Age or Wiccan stores for a design like this. As to making one of your own, perhaps use square tubing, remove one side and squeeze two of the sides together to get an equilateral triangle.

Grelber

Ahhhhh, tberry7403, that one is freaking me out, since it just stares at me with that dark, soul-less, unblinking eye!

Militia Pete: that's exactly what I was thinking! I agree. I love how gruncle Stan is a shriner.

You could always use the eye of the Great Seal of the US.

I went down to see what my wife was up to, and she had her cookie cutters out. The jack-o-lantern cutter has triangles for the eyes and nose! On her cookie cutter, the triangles are probably about 10mm on each side, so you'd probably have to shop around. I found one on the internet link which has separate eyes, nose and mouth, so you wouldn't even have to hack it up, as you would with her plastic cookie cutter.

Grelber

Cool idea! Thanks,

Dan

How about the civil defense logo or the fallout sign? link

Looks like Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls. Best show on TV (cartoon wise!)

Archer by a country mile

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To build the tool you want to make this embossing into foam, a company called K&S Metals is your friend:

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Better hardware and hobby shops will have a display case with many sizes of tube in Brass and Aluminum. You can work through the selection to find the tubes the slide one into the other. (Brass is better as it is easy to solder).

But this might be a cheaper and easier way to go:

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What is the significance of this symbol and why is it controversial?

The eye and pyramid (or triangle) has been getting a lot of attention from conspiracy theorists recently.

Dan

Must be a US thing? I've never seen it or heard of it before!

Sure you have, it is almost everywhere:

The Masonic Eye:
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And off of US money:

The only controversial thing is calling it controversial.

Extra points for those who break the "secret" code of letters at the base of the pyramid. ;)

Do you mean the 1776 reference?

Sorry DyeHard but it ain't everywhere over here!

We have different money and the Masons seem to be a much more low key, secretive organisation in this neck of the woods. The only time you ever hear about them is when people make jokes about "the funny handshake brigade"!

How many points do I get for 1776?

It may be of slight relevance fnord to point out that the symbol of the police in Saudi Arabia fnord is an eye in a pyramid. I can't recall if it was the criminal police, the traffic police, or both; they have a lot of polices over there.

Also of possible relevance is the experience I had when searching for the homepage of a fnord august group to which I belong, the Society for the Study of Artificial Intelligence and the Simulation of Behaviour, popularly known as the AISB. I leave you to fnord google the difference between aisb.org.uk and aisb.org, the purported homepage (or "visible head") of the Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria.

Of course, there is nothing in this silly conscpiracist fnord nonsense.

Cerdic wrote:

How many points do I get for 1776?

23.

All the best fnord,

John.

To bring things back around:

All should see the film, "The Man Who Would Be King" with Sean Connery and Michael Caine:
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Free Mason images play a informative conspiratorial role.

The Eye of Providence appears on many coats of arms and official seals, such as:
Coat of arms of Braslaw, Belarus
The Coat of Arms of Brasłaŭ, Belarus
The Coat of Arms and Flag of Šiauliai, Lithuania
Several college fraternities use the Eye of Providence in their coats of arms and/or badges, notably Delta Tau Delta, Phi Kappa Psi, Phi Delta Theta and Delta Kappa Epsilon
The seal of The University of Mississippi
The seal of The University of Chile

The Eye appears on the following currency:
United States one-dollar bill – as part of the Great Seal (see above)
The 50 Estonian krooni note – as part of a depiction of the pipe organ of the Käina church
The 500 Ukrainian hryvnia note

Other contexts
On the original publication of the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen, which also borrows iconography of the Ten Commandments
On the front page of the Serbian Constitution of 1835
The Kazan Cathedral, St. Petersburg, Russia
The Salt Lake Temple, Salt Lake City, Utah
Insignia of the UK Guards Division created in 1915
The Steve Jackson Games logo
In the animated series Arthur, the All Seeing Eye is above Prunella's bed
Numerous video games contain depictions of the eye
In the TV show "Then Came Bronson", the symbol appears on the tank of his motorcycle
In the animated series Gravity Falls, there is a mythical, omnipotent figure named Bill Cipher that resembles the symbol
In the TV show Revolution, the Patriot organization uses a symbol containing the Eye of Providence

Put the triangle inside the circle and you have the Army Aggressorland insignia for the Maneuver enemy in the 1950's and 60's.

Thanks OSchimdt, a quick and interesting history lesson. I hadn't heard about that before and the use of Esperanto was quite novel I would have thought.

This is a complex yet massively important symbol. In short, the eye represents the eye of God, but it is not the mainstream exoteric version of God most people think of, it is the esoteric illuminist version of God.
Originally it was used to mean that God is everywhere and you cannot escape its gaze, in recent centuries it has been corrupted somewhat to mean that the people in charge are always watching you. That is why you find it on the logo for Total Information Awareness link an Orwellian information gathering system used by American administrations), and the original MI5 logo, as well as secret societies and esoteric groups whose main aim is to engineer culture and peoples perceptions.
You will see it in literally hundreds of Hollywood movies and you will not be able to watch many music videos without seeing it.

As Dyehard said so well, the only controversial thing is calling it controversial. Lots of people know about this now, good research information on this is not that hard to find if you genuinely want to learn more.
The most amazing thing is that people are still in the dark about this. Most people just hear a feeble-minded, frightened or ignorant person say "its just a conspiracy theory" and it gives them permission to go back to sleep.

Dear Summerandaccad

Yes, I first became involved with it the hard way (by being captured by Aggressorland forces and under going prisoner interogation.) I did not make matters better for myself becuase I started parodying in pidgin the Esperanto of my captors. "Gnish Gnash! Trish Trash! Chris Craft mares i dotes and doewes ead dotes and iddle ambs eed ivy!" Bonwit-Teller Poo!" I then gave a click of the heels and the Nazi Salute.

I have several US Army manuals on "Aggressor" including the complete order of battle and several maps of the "Aggressorland" satelites set up on US soil to be part of the training effort for the Proxy wars around the world at the height of the cold War.

It seems they have stuck every possible name they could find from WWII WWI and the New York Phone book in as commanders, and I have to say there is something neat about being Yorgen Steenstrup of the 443rd Breakthrough Artillery Division, Central Front. "Long Live Emilio Grandafrato! May warts never grow on his canels nose!"

It actually was the the thing that got me into Imagi-nation Armies, and I understand you can still find this stuff on the net somewhre.

I loved it. The problem was that they really had to use a lot of US service equipment because they didn't want to spend a lot of money, so you had these guys running around in mixes of Army, Navy, and Air Force Uniforms, from Class A to Fatigues, and it looked AWFUL! I can tell you this, there'll never be an Osprey book of Aggressorland uniforms!

Anyway It served for what they wanted. By the way, the symbol for aggressor was in fact the Civil Defense insignia of the time, which made it all the more ridiculous. But it was a hoot.

"I'ts Springtime for Grandofrato and Cedonai…"

I almost forgot that the flag for the Republic of Gilead had it too:

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Dan

I guess it's still in fashion:

Dan

OK, John D Salt, I'll be the one to do it.

What is fnord? :)

Of course, there is nothing in this silly conscpiracist fnord nonsense.

That's an awfully persuasive argument you have there.

OSchmidt, I never wanted to wargame modern until reading that! It sounds like fun. Have you tried Wargaming it?

I guess that the aliens that landed the UFO in Rendelsham Forest (and a similar report from Japan in 1800) liked that triangle-circle symbol:

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Hmm … I wonder if those reports provide the basis for the design of the Martian flag in Mars Attacks (1996):

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Dan

Dear Summerandaccad

Whoo boy! Have I! I have a whole game complete with Campaign game for the Modern period which I pitch between 1924 and 1942. All of the nations are Imagi-Nations. None of them is Aggressor or called that. That was too hokey for me. So what I have done is I have 12 imagi-nations in the modern world. All of them are conceived as burlesques of the real thing. Think Marx Brothers in "Duck Soup" or the Three Stooges in "I'll never Heil Again" and you've pretty much got the idea. I'm building armies for each of the 12 powers in the game. The 12 powers are (see ifyou can guess who each is).

FARVERGNUGGEN or the 7 3/4 Reich.
HUNGLAND or the Brutish Empire.
WWWF The Workers Winter Wonderland of Freeland.
TERRAMASU- Samurai Night Fever!
CHUN-BO-HO or the Empire of Fu-Manchu and chain of Chinese Restarants.
THE 443rd (and counting!) Republic of Flounce!
BANDRIKA- This one I have to tell you. Bandrika is the name of the mythical country in the old Hitchcock movie, "The Lady Vanishes." See the movie and you'll love it. It's kind of like a Czechoslovakia plus Hungary and a little bit of Poland, A little bit of France, a little slive of belgium, a little part of Fracne…
PUTZLAND – Long Live Marshall Soapsudskii
IKEA- An oriental realm, most known for its furniture trade, Ottoman's, Divan's etc.
THE NEWNITED STATES- Imagine America with Capone, Siegel, and Meyer Lansky in charge.
TROPICANA- Sort of a combination of the ABC countries of South America- ruled over by a sort of Eva Peron figure, only she got her fame dancing in a lot of B movies with skimpy sarongs and large headdress hairdo's of fruit YiYiYi… I like you very much!
THE FASCIST MONARCHY OF FANABLA-

Did the whole thing, ordeers of battle, national write ups, rules, etc. The game operates on the ARMY level. The table top does not represtent a stretch of ground, or a tactical filed, but in fact a table-top. A tabletop in some chateau, 30 miles behind the lines with the soldiers, tanks etc merely tokens being moved around by nattily dressed Wacs using long croupier sticks. The only thing you hear of the real battleffields, that is the muddy, bloody, gassed over hell you have consigned your men to is the tinkling of the crystal chandelier as the 7 day barrage reaches it's crescendo. Then, at 5 pm, you knock off and have dinner at the cabaret or Maximes from your world dominating table as you watch the show.

It's really nothing more than a really tarted up version of Aggressorland.

Next I have to design the uniforms for some of the powers. Of course there'll be plenty of stuff in good Proleatarian brown, and in really slashy fashion statement BD&SM black and silver.
Oh yeah-- you'll have to find your own nattilly dressed wacs.

That's the name of one of them by the way. Natalie Dressed.

Guys,

I've just been told that the late Patrick Swayze had a similar tattoo on his chest, in the film "Steel Dawn".

If so, I can't seem to find it anywhere.

Dan

In the film "The Triumph of Sherlock Holmes: 1935:
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There is a secret society called "The Scowrers" and also known as "The Freeman" which is mostly criminal in nature. There are a few allusions to Free Masons, but mostly that have your symbol branded onto their forearms as a sign of membership.

Check out one of the many symbols Carthaginians used to represent the goddess Tanit:

Almost looks like the Stargate symbol for Earth, somehow mixed together with the Ankh symbol:

Dan

I used the triangle inside the circle symbol for one of my rpg campaigns; it was the symbol of the Church. Except it was based on geometry rather than magic.

"I have several US Army manuals on "Aggressor" including the complete order of battle and several maps of the "Aggressorland" satelites set up on US soil to be part of the training effort for the Proxy wars around the world at the height of the cold War. "

"It actually was the the thing that got me into Imagi-nation Armies, and I understand you can still find this stuff on the net somewhre."

Slight topic derail-

Indeed, some titles are still out there to be had:

FM 30-101 Aggressor The Maneuver Enemy April 1961

FM 30-101-1 Esperanto The Aggressor Language February 1962

(There is a FM 30-101A "Aggressor The Maneuver Enemy Esperanto Language" July 19… something, but I've yet to latch on to a copy.)

FM 30-102 Handbook On Aggressor Military Forces January 1963

FM 30-103 Aggressor Order Of Battle June 1955

FM 30-104 Aggressor Representation February 1953

I don't doubt there may be other titles and publication dates out there, but I thought this lot covered most of the bases. It took me nearly a decade to collect these……
However, if anyone has verifiable information on other titles, I'd be glad to hear of them.

Rerail……

Duck

This is too cool:

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Dan

I have my European History students analyze the early printing of the Declaration of Rights of Man and Citizen. The Revolutionary French loved to pile the symbolism on!

Making the triangle symbol with the hands was one of our meditation poses in my Tae Kwon Do school. Our arms were stretched in front, with us in horse riding stance. We peeked through the triangle.

I had to hold that stance for 5 minutes when testing for my 2nd Dan. My personal best was around 15 minutes.