"The IS-3 and T-10 " Topic

Are their any significant differences between the the IS-3 and the T-10 that would make one represent the other prohibitive? As I under it The T-10 was an improved IS-3. Anyhoo salut y'all!

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From what I've read, the IS-3 was only fielded after WWII, at least in combat, so you might want to keep that in mind (since you posted to the WWII board).

Lots of IS-2s though, in WWII.

They look like two different vehicles. Both are large heavy tanks but the shape of the hulls and turrets are different.
The details are all different. They are not like a Sherman tank where many different versions look more or less the same. Google or go to GHQ site to see for yourself.

ghqmodels.com/store/r11.html
ghqmodels.com/store/w89.html

They are relatives (T-10s former name was IS-10, but as Daddy Stalin died and political winds started to blow away from his regime it was renamed), but definetly not same vehicle. Both were deployed in same role, though T-10 made longer career in soviet active service.

In general, they were quite similiar (with execption of external things allready mentioned and those to be mentioned), but fex. gun was improved variant in T-10, and it also had greater ammo capacity, more fuel-effective engine (=operational range) and thicker skin.

Also, late-production T-10 included stabiliser, and this was also added to those early-production vehicles which were rebuilt into T-10M standard, where in addition to that, also night-fighting capability and NBC-protection system was added.

From what I've read, the IS-3 was only fielded after WWII, at least in combat, so you might want to keep that in mind (since you posted to the WWII board).

I've read that the Soviets claimed to have fielded the IS-3 in time for the Battle of Berlin in 1945, but that such claims are doubted in the West. Still, I'd say it's open to debate.

Not really open for debate. The first production IS-3s were suppose to be in the Berlin victory parade by they were so poorly produced that they all had to be immediately return to the factory for a complete overhaul.

Objectively, the Soviet operation to get JS-3s to run in the Berlin Victory parade was one of the most successful deployments of armour since the Ardennes 1940. They gave the Western Allies the heebie-jeebies for about 20 years, and contributed to the Soviet walkovers into East Berlin, North Korea and most of Eastern Europe.…..

I had heard that some got deployed to the Manchuria campaign but never fired a shot in anger .

The T-10 turret looks like a cast-iron frying pan. the JS-3 turret looks like a mixing bowl…

Thanks for all the responses y'all. Yes I know whe consensus is the IS-3 was too late for the WWII but its fun to freak out all the Hello Kitty Koenigs Tiger panzer putty tat kompanie fielder's. I plan on using the IS-3's to scare the heck outta the above in non official Battlefront games. And with stats for the IS-3 now available in Wargames Ilustrated's Fate of a Nation supplement I can finally field them. This only leaves open the question of points cost. Heere kitty kitty! Salut y'all!

Bruce the Texas Grognard

"Objectively, the Soviet operation to get JS-3s to run in the Berlin Victory parade was one of the most successful deployments of armour since the Ardennes 1940"

Except for the fact that they weren't in the Berlin victory parade.

Erm?

You say they didnt take part on vicotry parade in berlin, september 7th 1945? So what I am looking at in 8:20 vimeo.com/65657902 ?

Btw, thats one hell of a scene! I do perfectly understand why west-allies crapped their pants..

Great link thanks MaahisK90