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Just Plain Chris04 Oct 2013 3:57 p.m. PST

Thinking about trying this battle out on my tabletop . . .

Have had a look at and for sources. Wondering if anyone has had better luck with finding orders of battle and so forth?

If you have staged this battle, how did you handle the ambush?



Personal logo Gonsalvo Supporting Member of TMP04 Oct 2013 4:50 p.m. PST

There us a scenario for Trebbia (and many others) in Glenn Pruit's great scenario book "Hannibal ad Portas". While designed specifically for Piquuiet/Archon,the OOb etc should be adaptable to other systems.

Pedrobear04 Oct 2013 5:30 p.m. PST

I staged this using WAB once, long time ago.

The players didn't know the name of the battle and the Carthaginian player was told he has a force in ambush in that woods that he can spring when he wants to.

For the OOB we just used what we had.

Yesthatphil04 Oct 2013 5:40 p.m. PST

We did this a few years back using Neil Thomas's Ancient Wargaming (AMW)
Ancients on the Move/MK/2008


Best start point for orbats is Phil Sabin's Lost Battles …


Maddaz11105 Oct 2013 2:35 a.m. PST

Have a quick read of lost battles, it's got the best analysis of forces for most of these battles available.

olicana05 Oct 2013 11:23 a.m. PST

Hi Chris,

I've done it using Ager Proelii rules and rules for miniatures based on Command and Colours. I've done it at various figure ratios and it's a great little battle.

From memory we had the arrival of the ambush as an event, like the arrival of reserves. The ambush party could arrive anywhere on the Roman base-line / side of the river. This keeps everything simple. There is no need, in a game, to have them move from the ambush position to their final attack position – it gives the Romans too much time to prepare to meet it – and gives, what is a small contingent, the welly of surprise.

Here are some links. There are more bits and pieces for Trebbia under the Punic Wars Project label:





Hope this is of some help.


Just Plain Chris06 Oct 2013 4:31 a.m. PST

Thanks for the advice. I did have Lost Battles earlier this year (on inter-library loan), so will have to request it again. I am thinking about trying a variation of the Society's Battle Day and stage this solo, using three sets of rules over the course of a few months.

James – stumbled across your blog and was absolutely gobsmacked by the layout and figures. Very well done! Without meaning to appear too effusive, it's what we all aspire to . . .

Thanks again to all for taking the time to reply.


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