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Ausrobal Inactive Member01 Sep 2013 10:09 a.m. PST

Dear all,

I am attempting to base some figures to the Empire V ruleset.
I wish to base my British infantry combined light as a two rank company formation.
Now I am trying to match historical data from the Battle of Maida.
Here The combined light under Kempt had 25 officers and 510 men.
So this would be a grand total of 9 figs at 1:60 scale and 18 figs at 1:30 scale. I would prefer the latter.
Next a typical British battalion would be 8 centre and 2 flank companies. So How do I base this unit?
It seems to me to generate historciallz accurate but then fit the game basing convention this is not possible.
Any advice would be welcome.

Best regards,

Robert

Ausrobal Inactive Member01 Sep 2013 10:13 a.m. PST

another quick question to add, do units get flags, drummers and officers?

Kevin ABQ Inactive Member01 Sep 2013 9:15 p.m. PST

I'd base it as 7 center figures and 2 flank figures (each flank figure on its own base or the Gren based with one of the center figures.

The choice about drummers, flags and officers is up to you….personal choice. Note that you will need a lot of extra command figures if you do go with command for each battalion!

Either way, enjoy!

Kevin

14Bore02 Sep 2013 5:48 a.m. PST

In basing figures for Empire for 30 years I have found the command figure problem the hardest thing to work around. I use them in place of as any other figure (not separate). Officers, drummers fill in as I have them, I really try to get 1 flag bearer for each battalion but I still have some without one. Separate light/gren troops as per army regulations considering sometimes these troops were grouped together to form elite battalions. I'm writing about 1=60 but guess 1-30 just would give you more leeway.

deflatermouse04 Sep 2013 3:40 a.m. PST

I based useing 1:60 roughly 12 figs for French & Bavarians and 18 for Austrians. Always counted command (Officers, esigns & musicians) as part of the 12.

Art Inactive Member16 Jun 2014 10:00 a.m. PST

G'Day Gents

At the Battle of Maida, there is no solid proof that the British formed in two ranks, they may have formed in three ranks…there is only speculation that they formed in two ranks, and that is not very convincing.

Best Regards
Art

Ooiittee Inactive Member24 Jun 2014 8:08 p.m. PST

Artpdn, are you basing your force specifically for that battle and not to be used in any other. I ask as British have a wider base frontage for the fact that they are two ranked not three.

If your wanting to base them three ranked then you would use the other nation basing method, this however will limit you to using these "Legitimately" for battles that the British went 3 ranked into.

I would not recommend this limiting of your troops. Base them as British 2 Ranks.

I believe that the basing of 1:60 is approx. 1 figure = a company. So if your basing 1:30 it would be 2 Lights and 2 Grenadier figures for those companies, leaving the remaining 14 figures as Centre co.

I struggle with the command figures also as Brit have 2 standards, one Commander, musicians, Sergeant etc. So if done right at 1:60 scale, your 10-12 figure unit has 2 standards 1 drummer 1 Sergeant and 1 Officer (approx. half of your unit is command figures. I prefer (1 Captain and 1 standard) and (1 Sergeant and 1 Musician) based together. This is mainly to use the figures to the best effect that you get in command packs from Perry's or Wargames Foundry.

Lastly, Musicians and Sergeants and Captains do not count for anything speical in Empire (standards can be captured if your playing that, Captains too). Its Brigade commanders and above that your need to worry about as they have a play effect when attached to a Btn/Brig.

Hope this helps some. Let me know if you would like me to send you some pics?

Art Inactive Member25 Jun 2014 9:32 p.m. PST

G'Day Mr. Ooiittee,

My Brits are based upon two ranks. If I were to fight Madia, I would have to fudge the British somehow.

I feel that 1:60 is the perfect scale…and have played empire where it was changed to 1:120…and it works out…

Since I am not that concerned with the actual footprint of how a battalion is represented on the table top…when I have a small table, I reduce the range and movement by half.

I have had quite a few battles on the end leaf of the dining table…thanks to wife's permission…

As for photos yes I would enjoy seeing some photos…

Best Regards
Art

peter t Inactive Member22 May 2016 5:52 a.m. PST

Hi guys
Just wondering has anyone organised their armies at a scale of 1:30 and played Empire V?
I assume you just double the size of the units?
Are there any rule changes required?
Appreciate any info
Cheers
Pter

14Bore02 Jun 2016 4:59 p.m. PST

I've seen it done, and doubled up my army long ago but put it back to 1=60. It would be easy enough to do to double causalities,and if you like the larger looking battalions.

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