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Lord Raglan Inactive Member22 Aug 2013 2:29 p.m. PST

You may have heard, Longstreet was released this week. I was wondering, if you don't have an existing ACW collection, how do you plan to base your units for this game?

I will probably base my 28mm collection as followings:

Infantry – 45mm wide by 40mm deep, 5-6 figures per base.
Cavalry – 45mm wide by 50mm deep, 2 figures per base.
Artillery – 45mm wide by 50mm deep, 1 gun with 4 crew.

Raglan

Sparker Inactive Member22 Aug 2013 2:55 p.m. PST

Well the main thing, M'Lud, is that your base widths are consistent, which I believe is all that Sam really requires…And your basing will still be consistent for Black Powder should you ever get a shout at that.

As you know, my uni group is sticking to 4 figures on a 40mm square base for infantry, but are fudging our artillery. Not sure how we are going to do the donkey-wallopers (and frankly I don't care!)

45thdiv22 Aug 2013 2:56 p.m. PST

Raglan, if I were starting over again, I would base the same as you. As it is now my bases are 2" wide. The depth is only an inch for infantry, four inches for artillery. The cavalry is on a bit wider base with three horses a base. I only use three bases so they end up taking the same space as four bases with two riders.

Matthew

Dentwist Supporting Member of TMP22 Aug 2013 3:02 p.m. PST

I'm basing my 15mm on 30mm x 30mm

clarkeshire Inactive Member22 Aug 2013 3:14 p.m. PST

my armies are 15mm …based for Fire and Fury….they work a treat for Longstreet…although Longstreet does inspire me to field a 28mm Union Force:)

Paul

idontbelieveit22 Aug 2013 3:24 p.m. PST

What? Are we done talking about how many decks you need?

Your plan sounds fine.

45thdiv22 Aug 2013 3:52 p.m. PST

Shhhhhh……. We are trying to move on from there by quietly slipping out the back. :-)

Matthew

DJoker Inactive Member22 Aug 2013 4:17 p.m. PST

Basing the same as for 15mm Regimental Fire & Fury. Seems to be a good basing scheme that's also economical in amount of figures needed per base.

-Scott

RazorMind22 Aug 2013 4:20 p.m. PST

already play Regimental Fire and Fury, and voila! the base size seems already perfect for Longstreet. I win!!!

cae5ar22 Aug 2013 7:47 p.m. PST

28mm infantry on 40 x 40mm bases, 4 figures to a base so I don't have to paint too many. Much cunning will be applied to basing artillery (perhaps 80mm wide "double" base?) and cavalry. I'm still toying with the idea of basing all troop types on 40mm wide bases but I need to experiment to convince myself it can be done and still look good. The artillery will definitely be on deeper bases if they're only 40mm wide.

Lord Raglan Inactive Member22 Aug 2013 11:59 p.m. PST

Well I was just coming on to the issue about the decks of cards…..

Raglan

advocate23 Aug 2013 2:26 a.m. PST

This is all you need to know about the deck of cards…
YouTube link

JJMicromegas23 Aug 2013 2:47 a.m. PST

People keep mentioning basing for Regimental F&F, can someone please provide a rundown of that basing system for 15mm troops.

Thank you.

Trajanus23 Aug 2013 3:46 a.m. PST

The 'by the book' version is:

Infantry 3 figures on 1" x 3/4"

Cavalry 2 figures on 1" x 1"

Dismounted Cavalry as per Infantry

Artillery 1 gun + 2 or 3 crew on 1" x 1.5"

Brigade commander 1" Round base Division and above 2/3 figures on 1.5" Round

Trajanus23 Aug 2013 3:52 a.m. PST

Longstreet – Decided for me! They are 28mm on 4 figure bases @ 40mm already, and that's where their staying.

For what its worth, as far as I'm concerned a "base width" will be 2". That way I can use a normal ruler and just multiply all measurements in the rules by two.

Won't make a damn bit of difference.

Mr Elmo23 Aug 2013 4:18 a.m. PST

3 figures on 1" x 3/4"

For 15mm, something approximating 1" square is an industry standard, F&F can use it, Black Powder in cm, Johnny Reb and Mr. lincoln's war too IIRC

So this is good.

Condottiere23 Aug 2013 4:38 a.m. PST

Infantry: 4-6 figures in two ranks on 2x2 inch bases.
Cavalry: none painted yet, but I plan on basing 2 figures per base.
Artillery: one gun model and crew on 2" x 4" base.

FlyXwire23 Aug 2013 7:16 a.m. PST

I have a nice 15mm collection on 2 inch bases already, but for starters, and because a couple of friends in the area also have 10mm Gordon & Hague figures too, I'll be playing my first games of Longstreet with these (the G&H stands for all the combat arms are the same size…..should get some limbers though).

With thoughts of playing the Longstreet campaign, we were planning on doing this with our 10mm ACW collections anyway.

G&H 10mm ACW:

15mm ACW (mostly Old Glory):

Lord Raglan Inactive Member23 Aug 2013 8:40 a.m. PST

Cheers boys,

Raglan

Luke Warm Inactive Member23 Aug 2013 10:05 a.m. PST

Perhaps you could mount them on playing cards

FlyXwire23 Aug 2013 10:57 a.m. PST

Bada Bing!

Condottiere23 Aug 2013 11:01 a.m. PST

How many card sets would he need then?

Trajanus23 Aug 2013 11:55 a.m. PST

I have no idea but if FlyXwire had 28mm stuff in those Craftsman boxes he'd need a ………. Forklift!

FlyXwire23 Aug 2013 12:37 p.m. PST

For sure Trajanus!

(and add in the extra weight of the super-duper magnetic sheet I'd need to hold those biggins' upside down too)

Lion in the Stars23 Aug 2013 12:41 p.m. PST

Trajanus, you do know that they make big rollers for tool chests, don't you?

If I ever start ACW, it will be 15mm G&H figures (assuming that they stick around long enough for that to happen!), so everyone will be on the same sized bases.

Trajanus23 Aug 2013 1:07 p.m. PST

Oh yeah, sure but it doesn't help when you are trying to get them into the back of your car! :o)

BunJen Inactive Member24 Aug 2013 6:10 a.m. PST

I'm doing 10mm Pendraken, 30x30mm bases 8 Infantry toa base, you could get away with 6 but I like he look.

Cavalry 3 to a base

Artillery on 30x30

hearts261 Inactive Member25 Aug 2013 12:00 p.m. PST

I've only ever done skirmish sized single figures to a base before. What size base would be good for 4, 28mm figures to a base? Is that gonna mess up the artillery, because it seems like a lot of people are doing 6(ish) figures to base, which would obviously be wider.

Bosco05 Inactive Member27 Aug 2013 3:50 a.m. PST

I use 28mm figures and for infantry base 4 figs to a 40mm square base. For flexibility I use metal figure bases and magnetized stands to allow for single figure removal which provides a bit more flexibility for different rule conventions

Calvary is based 2 figs on a 40 or 50mm wide by 50mm deep base

Lord Ashram27 Aug 2013 5:17 a.m. PST

The idea that rule sets required you to rebase figures has always blown be away. Rebasing a collection seems like so much damn work, and it seems like it would be so easy to damage your figures! I'm glad that most rule sets don't require that anymore:)

afilter Supporting Member of TMP27 Aug 2013 11:05 a.m. PST

How critical is the base depth in Longstreet?

My 10mm Inf are currently 4 figs on 1" x1/2". The book suggest doubling them up which I could do by getting 1" magnetic squares since my bases are metal. The issue I have is this basically cuts my forces in half and eliminates larger games.

I currently have 140-150 Inf bases per side. I would think if both sides are based the same it would not be an issue and all my BW are 1".

Does not appear Mounted Cav or Arty are and issue at all.

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