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11th ACR06 Aug 2013 4:26 p.m. PST

A few months ago we were discusing Camo patterns and if they were sprayed on or hand painted.
(Can't find that topic)

I had stated that I was tasked with as an E-1 Pvt in 1980 to hand paint my track M113A1 the "New" digital pattern that was being experimented with.

I found these pictures of an M-60 and a M113 in the digital pattern.

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Mako11 Inactive Member06 Aug 2013 6:31 p.m. PST

Hmmmmm, interesting.

Didn't know they were experimenting with that, way back then.

Thanks for sharing.

ScottS06 Aug 2013 6:45 p.m. PST

Digital camouflage on AFVs and solid green uniforms…

Wow. Thanks for passing that along.

Bravo Two Zero06 Aug 2013 8:01 p.m. PST

The soldiers, what nationality? What is the firearm leaning against the M113? The onion dome could make these Balkan maybe and a refit to new NATO member? Curious as all heck now.

Any ideas guys?

Interesting camo and info OP. Thanx for the share

11th ACR06 Aug 2013 8:15 p.m. PST

Nationality? U.S. Army, E Troop, 2nd Squadron 2nd Armored Cavalry Regiment, stained on the Czechoslovakian borders.
The picture is in Bamberg Germany.

What is the firearm leaning against the M113?
Looks to be an M16A1

I would say theses pictures were taken around the 1979-1980 time period.

I hope that answerers you questions.

Jemima Fawr Inactive Member06 Aug 2013 8:35 p.m. PST

I remember that thread, though I think it was a couple of years ago (time flies!). The experimental camo was called 'Dual-Tex'. There was another experimental camo scheme shortly before it called 'MASSTER' which was truly vile.

Major Mike07 Aug 2013 5:54 a.m. PST

Didn't the British experiment with an urban camo patter in Berlin about the same time?

mwnciboo Inactive Member07 Aug 2013 9:46 a.m. PST

Yup… The Berlin Brigade aka the WARPAC Hostages in being.

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Jemima Fawr Inactive Member07 Aug 2013 10:15 a.m. PST

The Berlin Brigade didn't just experiment – they kept the scheme til the end.

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Major Mike07 Aug 2013 3:09 p.m. PST

A friend in the Berlin Brigade said that the British pattern was hard to pick out in rubbled urban terrain, might be why they kept it.

11th ACR07 Aug 2013 3:58 p.m. PST
Jemima Fawr Inactive Member07 Aug 2013 5:06 p.m. PST

Mike,

I can't link it thanks to the work net-nanny, but if you google for the Berlin Brigade camo, you'll find a superb photo of a Chieftain lurking on a Berlin street – it really does fade into the background.

11th ACR,

Nice! Not seen any of those before. What's that AFV with the soldier standing on it?

11th ACR07 Aug 2013 5:25 p.m. PST

Looks to be a M-60, most likly an A3 model.

Jemima Fawr Inactive Member07 Aug 2013 6:00 p.m. PST

Oh of course, he's standing on top of the turret. I thought he was standing on the hull of a small AFV. :)

Major Mike08 Aug 2013 4:09 a.m. PST

I think it is a M-60a1. You can see the plug connected for the searchlight in the lower left part of the picture.

mwnciboo Inactive Member08 Aug 2013 4:39 a.m. PST

@ R Mark Davies

Did you mean this Picture?

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It's quite effective isn't it.

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Legion 408 Aug 2013 7:00 a.m. PST

Didn't know the US ever used digital camo … and yes it appears quite effective … Those are the vehicles used when I first entered active duty in '79. OH-58, M60 MBT, M901 ITV, M113 APC, M577 [Command version of the M113], M561 Gamma Goat utility truck … ah memories … old fart

Milites Inactive Member08 Aug 2013 2:09 p.m. PST

The guardian to Duxford's land warfare museum, used to be a Chieftain in the Berlin camo scheme. Even when you knew it was there, you had difficulty spotting it, unless you came pretty close. I guess TI makes this kind of sophisticated scheme less effective.

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