Tango01  | 05 Aug 2013 12:16 p.m. PST |
"This is a non-political historical exploration of the various uniforms that developed over a 120 period. Until recently there has been very little available in the English language on the uniforms, flags and insignia worn by Ottoman Turkish forces covering the full period 1800 – 1918. This study identifies over 460 different uniforms worn by the Ottoman Turkish army, and navy from 1800 till 1918, with examples taken from surviving uniforms, period illustrations, written descriptions, and photographs. Many of the terms, phrases and spellings of ranks are also used, to preserve what may have been original pronunciations. For instance, between 1880 and 1916 commonly the Ottoman rank of major, is written in German, and British references as ‘Bimbashi'. Whereas in modern Turkish it is correctly spelled as Binbashi (from the Turkish – a chief of a thousand). In this particular case, it is known that ‘Bimbashi' is actually soldier Arabic, a pidgin of Arabic which developed among the Anglo-Egyptian military (used typically between 1870 and 1920)
" See here ottoman-uniforms.com Hope you enjoy!. Amicalement Armand |
Rrobbyrobot | 05 Aug 2013 1:34 p.m. PST |
Thanks a bunch, Tango. Real interesting info. |
Endless Grubs | 05 Aug 2013 2:13 p.m. PST |
Great site--lots of links! Bookmarked! |
11th ACR | 05 Aug 2013 2:42 p.m. PST |
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Sysiphus | 05 Aug 2013 3:38 p.m. PST |
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account cancelled | 05 Aug 2013 5:18 p.m. PST |
Best link I've seen in a long time, probably since cent-jours. Thanks! |
itaphil | 05 Aug 2013 5:20 p.m. PST |
Very useful. Thanks for sharing. |
jurgenation  | 05 Aug 2013 5:57 p.m. PST |
Thanx for rminding me I need to finish my Turks. |
Tango01  | 05 Aug 2013 10:46 p.m. PST |
Happy you enjoyed the link my friends!. (smile) Amicalement Armand |
Eleve de Vauban  | 06 Aug 2013 10:09 a.m. PST |
Great find, thanks for sharing |
138SquadronRAF | 06 Aug 2013 10:39 a.m. PST |
Great find my dear cousin. oh the Russo-Turkish War is calling me
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Tango01  | 06 Aug 2013 12:09 p.m. PST |
Happy you enjoyed it too Eleve and dear cousin!. (smile). Amicalement Armand |
The Virtual Armchair General  | 06 Aug 2013 1:35 p.m. PST |
Outstanding! Merci Beaucoups! TVAG |
Tango01  | 06 Aug 2013 10:42 p.m. PST |
A votre service mon cher ami!. Amicalement Armand |
Mike Blake | 27 Dec 2013 10:07 a.m. PST |
The man behind the site – Dr Chris Flaherty – is IMHO a genius! |
Tango01  | 27 Dec 2013 10:32 a.m. PST |
Agree with you my friend. Amicalement Armand |
Druzhina | 28 Dec 2013 1:07 a.m. PST |
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Druzhina | 28 Dec 2013 5:05 a.m. PST |
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Druzhina | 28 Dec 2013 5:13 p.m. PST |
On the same page there is a link to my Janisary on my Melchior Lorck, 1570-83, site but no mention that Melchior Lorck has a Janisary with an enourmous plume
Figure A, as he notes in a footnote, appears in The Costume of Turkey, Illustrated by a Series of Engravings, 1802 as "a Spahi, belonging to one of the Asiatic provinces", so he should do away with •Figure 'A': is identified specifically as a "SIPAHI TIMARIOTE" [1]. Which appears to identify him as a member of the Household cavalry. I don't know much about 19th century Ottomans but on this page THE FIRST MODERN OTTOMAN ARMY UNIFORMS 1800 TILL 1826 has this claim:
It should be noted, that a print illustration of 1808 Ottoman new army soldier clearly identifies a soldier (which can be dated to 1807-08 by the particular headgear he is wearing), as a "Soldier of the Bostandjees, or Corps from the Sultan's Gardeners" (New York Public Library's Digital Gallery, the Vinkhuizjen Collection). This primary evidence presents a very different picture of the origins of the soldiers in the new army, as part of the Sultan's personnel household. The Vinkhuizjen Collection is not a primary source. Vinkhuizjen cut pictures out of books and pasted them in albums, losing most of the provenance and most of any text in these books. The dates Vinkhuizjen penciled on these are often the date of publication rather than the date the image represents or the date of the art it is based on. This can vary by decades and centuries. On the NAPOLEONIC OTTOMAN JANISSARY CORPS UNIFORMS page is this image:
which has been stitched together after Vinkhuizjen cut it into pieces (so he had more pictures). More effort would be needed to find all Vinkhuizjen's sources. This picture on the fantasy Janissary page:
may have appeared in 1880-1900 illustrated encyclopaedias, as noted, but it is from Elbicei Atika. Musée des Anciens Costumes Turcs de Constantinople, par Jean Brindesi, 1855. It also appeared on a set of Turkish postcards made in the 1950s.Druzhina Illustrations of Costume and Soldiers |
Druzhina | 30 Dec 2013 10:21 p.m. PST |
There is no "print illustration of 1808 Ottoman new army soldier" with that date in the Vinkhuizjen Collection but this plate:
dated 1817 by Vinkhuizjen is the one referred to. Vinkhuizjen has cut the caption "Soldier of ditto" from the contents page of McLean's The Military Costume of Turkey. Without the line that appeared above it – the caption is useless. Druzhina Illustrations of Ottoman Costume & Soldiers |
Mike Blake | 09 Jan 2014 9:41 a.m. PST |
Druzhina – that is not to acknowledge that you are a genius too – your website is just STUPENDOUS! It must have taken hours and hours of work, and is a must see for anyone looking for info. |
Druzhina | 10 Jan 2014 12:02 a.m. PST |
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