"WSS in 15mm or 18mm" Topic

In the next few months I'm going to have made some WSS French infantry, the beginning of a range for that war. What size should they be -- 15mm (to eye as per the commonly held definition these days), or 18mm a la most new Napoleonic ranges (including my own!)?

Please don't recommend other scales.

15mm

18mm

18mm

18mm…and more of the Thiry Years War line please…French; I've been waiting for those to start the period with you stuff.

18mm for me.

Do you already make other countries for WSS or will this be the start of a new period for you?

15mm!

It will be the start of a new range. If I already had some I'd make these new ones the same size.

15mm would match with Essex, Dixon, Roundway(I think they do WSS) and Edition Brokaw. The 18mm will match Blue Moon and maybe Old Glory 15's( not sure about them)

15mm.

I would only buy 15mm for my WSS armies.

15mm

15MM bitte!

I think Blue Moon do these innn 18mm?

15mm, please

Yes 15mm for me please.

18mm every time

15mm for me.

18mm

18mm…WSS is my favorite period, I'd buy a whole army of these upon release!

Wow, this is going to be a hard, hard decision. About equally split.

Khurasan;

Please take a look at Steve-the-Wargamer's WSS Project page, with his figure comparisons linked below:

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These were done before Blue Moon brought out their figures, and also don't include Lancashire Games, which are very large 18's. From a slightly earlier period (LoA), but here are some comparison shots that I did of the available foot. These were done prior to Lukio and your new range, obviously. The background is a 4mm square grid with incremental marks every 2mm. I threw the Les Higgins figures in just to illustrate scale creep for some of the "youngsters" out there.

Whichever direction you take, you're going to disappoint some folks who already have extensive collections. That's what "scale creep" has always done. So, what you have to consider is, "how many of the ranges out there are new and still being added to that might draw new customers or old ones who are re-tooling?"

I hate to say it, because I prefer the smaller figures myself, but 18mm is probably the way to go.

Bill
Sir William the Aged
warsoflouisxiv.blogspot.com

17 to 18mm would match well with the Blue Moon figures and appeal to people just forming their WSS/GNW armies (like me).

I think that Dixon produces the finest 15mm WSS figures even after 20 years. I'm not sure there's much room for improvement there. You could, however, produce the best 18's out there. To me it would be like the 28's that Ebor makes for the WSS. To me at least, they are a vast improvement over what is currently on the market therefore well worth it.

18mm would be my choice. However that said, WSS is well down on the list for me, after Naps and SYW…

And to be honest I'd prefer you concentrate on your outstanding Modern AFV ranges :-)

Sparker, that's happening, there are just waiting periods at the casters.

Waiting to get castings on:

Mag'ach
T55
Type 59
T62
BTR80
Stryker
Restock of T90
A surprise 1946 vehicle

Thanks Sir William. TBH I'd use almost all of them in my forces, barring the very tiny and the huge, to represent height variations, which are rarely shown in wargaming formations but always evident in real formations!

My vote is for 15mm.

I think that Dixon produces the finest 15mm WSS figures even after 20 years. I'm not sure there's much room for improvement there

Completely agree with the first half of this statement. Contrarily, I do believe there's a lot of room behind Dixon's own range, which is beautiful but short indeed.

Dixon do not have any sergeants, for instance. There's only one fixed bayonet pose all through the range (a charging grenadier). Besides, there are very few command figures, no Bourbon Spaniards, Bavarians or Austro-Catalans, no French or Imperial grenadiers, no runners… In the end, their artilleryists have nothing to do with their own foot of horse.

If building your WSS armies using Dixon miniatures, you must unavoidably complete them with other brands' pick-ups. Or, in the case of a Two Crowns army, choosing another make instead. IMHO, naturally.

Lluís

16.5mm :-)

Please go for 15mm!
Dixon and Minifigs both have great ranges but Dixon are on the smaller side of 15mil and if you go for 18 mil you will not be able to blend in with any existing armies.
As Lluis says Duxon have lots of gaps in their ranges so there is plenty of room to move in. Minifigs are much more extensive but the poses are quite old school. Blue Moon are on the larger side of 15mil, smaller side of 18, but I find I can get away with a few of their units if I mount them on thinner bases than Dixon or Minifigs. Anything larger than that will mean your figures will be of no use to current WSS players.
Simon

Not too large or too small. I guess 16.5mm sounds about right, but as long as they look like Ebor:

I don't really have a preference regarding the choice of 15mm or 18mm. What I would like to see is a nice full range covering the prominent players of England, France, Austria, Bavaria, Spain, Savoy and Dutch. A real treat would be the various German States, Swedes and Russians! All, of course, with at least 3 variants per pose, ie:3-4 each of loading, firing, marching etc.
Dixon figs are nice but are very limited in scope and poses. I welcome your offerings and wish you success.
(Ebor's are beautiful, aren't they)

Late to the show but as a new miniature gamer I would say 18mm so that they could be blended with Blue Moon.

If votes are still being taken, 15mm. I don't know if I'd buy any – 15mm WSS French is one of my "someday" projects – but I wouldn't buy ones 18mm to the eye.

It was split just about down the middle, so I went with the scale that allows more detail, 18mm. It was not an easy choice.

The infantry blank is done. This lacks the cartridge box and its strap, which will be added as appropriate. It's made with leggings as it will apparently be easier to whittle them off for stockings than to sculpt them on!

First line will be French infantry but they are a ways off.

represent height variations, which are rarely shown in wargaming formations but always evident in real formations!

A head is about 10 inches/25cm (mine is anyway!) In 15/18 that is less than 3mm. Plus all the equipment varies in size between different sizes. And anyone who measures to the eyes is just wrong- I don't care about what you kids do nowadays…

Awesome pic…sign me up!