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darclegion23 Jul 2013 8:37 a.m. PST

Here is a Battle of Nasiriyah that have put together over the last few days. Still working on placing troop positions before I begin the game. Thought I would share and thanks for looking.

Cheers,
Tom Young


tidesofwargaming.blogspot.com

GROSSMAN Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 8:41 a.m. PST

Nice terrain Tom, what rules are you using?

War In 15MM Inactive Member23 Jul 2013 8:46 a.m. PST

Great looking table. Richard

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 8:47 a.m. PST

Great looking game – plus your ancient/fantasy miniatures are fantastic!

darclegion23 Jul 2013 8:55 a.m. PST

I am still working on the rules to use. I have some Battlefield Evolution rules and I have a rule book called Fire team Vietnam, but that is it so far. The rules are the last thing I do…and I am on the hunt for rules. I mostly solo play so I use various rules from other games, but not one set of rules, because I have to modify. I do need to find some good modern rules to read and also have on hand, if I play against another player. Any ideas?
I mostly play ancient wargames, I decided a while back to play some modern games, such as Desert Storm and Operations in the 2nd gulf war. Mostly because I was in Desert Storm in the 2nd Mar Div Spearhead.

This is my first modern wargame.

Thanks to all!!

Tom
tidesofwargaming.blogspot.com

forwardmarchstudios Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 9:23 a.m. PST

Not bad. Having been at said battle myself though I must make a few constructive critiques.

First I see no impenetrable sand storm. You may want to set up a fan and blow dust across the table so no one can see further than twenty feet. Plus NVGs shouldn't work at night. No ambient light to magnify.

Also missing is the vast landfill the 2d MEB HQ was set up in and the attendent clouds of flies. You really need some flies to make it accurate. Dunno how you want to show the flies. Maybe toss some poppy seeds about? Also the infamous "Ambush Alley" was actually rather broad and open. There was nothing alley-ish about it- four lanes (if memory serves) with a broad dirt median inbetween. The houses on either side of it were rather low, not bigger than two stories.

You'll also need some friendly fire rules…

darclegion23 Jul 2013 10:39 a.m. PST

LOL! Too funny. I heard about that Sand storm…one comes around every 10 years I hear, what luck. We had a massive sand storm as well in Desert Storm, but we were not in combat at that time. We were on a 10 mile walk about, humping to a range to destroy. Sand storms suck, that is for sure.

Sorry no flies…and as far as the structures, I had to use some of my new terrain…taller buildings…for the fun of it, but I kept the larger ones back. Good thing is the Iraqi will never win….since I solo play…haha. I looked at aerial photos of the city, but used my imagination with what I had, etc.

You guys kicked you know what that day, and March 23rd was my birthday, so I remember watching the reports on TV….I so wanted to saddle up and be there, but my time has passed for being a grunt.

Thanks for posting, and Semper Fi!! And Thanks for putting yourself on the line!! I was in 1st Bn 6th Marines, 2nd Mar Div, Alpha Co. weapons plt machinegun squad.

I will eventually be doing all the battles in the Gulf wars.

Tom

ps,
Almost every article I came across was about Lynch and not the battle itself…people called it an ambush…which is bs (sure I know there was a unexpected ambush due to driver error), but it was a planned OP. I had to dig to find info on the battle, finally went to the Marine Corp Gazette to finally read the full battle report, which was really really detailed. I plan on playing the game based off the battle report.

link


And I know all about friendly fire. Unfortunately.

Rhino Co Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 10:50 a.m. PST

I wrote my bride weeks before that I was disappointed we (1st Bn, 10th Mar, RCT-2, TF Tarawa) were going to grab the bridges and that was it. She turned on the TV to see our unit on the news and dropping Joes (projectiles) on the town. we had an embedded news crew from Dallas, Texas who filmed the howitzers doing their work.

I'll echo that of forwardmarchstudios, and add the "NAS" a nasty virus that many caught that caused vomiting, chills and diarrhea. Tobacco dippers and fingernail biters were the first to get it.

darclegion23 Jul 2013 11:00 a.m. PST

Yea, virus every where over there. We caught the same thing or something close to…everyone caught it…I think from the fruit we were eating or something…I was laughing at everyone running to dig a hole. Eventually it looked like a mine field from marking all of the used spots…..then I caught it and it was so funny after that. But there is no way that I could imagine that feeling of being sick like that while being in combat…that would totally bite.

I don't know if they gave it a name…but I remember the needle they injected us with something to get rid of it.

This was during desert shield though while we were dug in.

Did you guys have to take that nerve gas pill…the one that made you feel like you ate a barrel of garlic? We had to take them when we hit the border and were dug in for tanks..and on 75% alert.
That night we had some friendly fire ourselves…and jet fighter was hit and it had to unload its racks behind us…but we didn't know that at the time…we thought we were being hit with scuds or something. One moment it was silent, the next thing the entire place was lit up like the 4th. The pilot dropped some Cluster bomb units near us, but safely away from our lines…in the DARK!! Lucky us.

Tom

pzivh43 Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 12:21 p.m. PST

There are some good books on the battle. OF course, I can't remember any titles!! One was by Bing West, I think. Also, the Marines out out some good stuff---some short studies with lots of good pics.

And March 23 is my birthday, too. Last year I did a Alamo scenario from the Force on Force Road to Bagdad book---you should check out those rules, too.

Mike

darclegion23 Jul 2013 2:54 p.m. PST

Updated link,

link

Pzivh43,
I will check them out thanks! And I have found a few good resources on line that I have reading, very good detailed accounts, especially on the Marine Corps Gazette.

Tom

Rhino Co Supporting Member of TMP23 Jul 2013 6:30 p.m. PST

The Marine Corps Historical Division out of Quantico has written several volumes.

PDF link

link

rct7500124 Jul 2013 3:04 a.m. PST

Reading a book that I am enjoying (not sure if that is the cotrrect word given the subject matter) Marines in the Garden of Eden about An Nasariyah

Nice blog by the way

darclegion24 Jul 2013 6:47 a.m. PST

Rct75001
Thanks! Blogging is a fun thing to do…it gets me to play more games….cleaning the table off is the only thing I don't like.
I read some parts out of that book on line, the "Garden of Eden" book. That was very detailed as well.

Pzivh43,
I found those rules Force on Force, and I am picking up a copy on ebay,thanks for the info. I may pick up the Vietnam rules as well.

Tom
tidesofwargaming.blogspot.com

darclegion27 Jul 2013 12:10 p.m. PST

Updated the game with some new pictures of the battle. I am using Battlefield Evolution rules, since that is all I have at the moment, but the rules work ok.

link

Tom

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